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Dave 'Devilfish' Ulliott
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Poker Europe Inaccurate as Usual Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I can only assume that Nic Szeremeta was is his usual drunken state when he read my book ‘Swimming With the Devilfish’ as he says in Poker Europa that I used to be a small time thief and also says that my escape route from the back streets of Hull was provided by playing poker. In my opinion this description describes a man who climbs into houses or shoplifts or something like that. In the book I admit to having emptied lots of wine and liquor stores and also emptying lots of safes. I am definitely not proud of my life of crime as a youngster and would hate for my children to have the same tough life I had. As I state we were definitely not small time and I opened a jewellers and pawn broking business 22 years ago which was long before there was any real money to be made in poker and built it up to the most successful pawn broking business in the area which is still going strong today. In the last 22 years I like to think that I have helped a lot of people through personal friends or charities to help balance the score sheet.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Poker Europe Inaccurate as Usual Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Dave 'Devilfish' Ulliott wrote:
I can only assume that Nic Szeremeta was is his usual drunken state when he read my book ‘Swimming With the Devilfish’ as he says in Poker Europa that I used to be a small time thief and also says that my escape route from the back streets of Hull was provided by playing poker. In my opinion this description describes a man who climbs into houses or shoplifts or something like that. In the book I admit to having emptied lots of wine and liquor stores and also emptying lots of safes. I am definitely not proud of my life of crime as a youngster and would hate for my children to have the same tough life I had. As I state we were definitely not small time and I opened a jewellers and pawn broking business 22 years ago which was long before there was any real money to be made in poker and built it up to the most successful pawn broking business in the area which is still going strong today. In the last 22 years I like to think that I have helped a lot of people through personal friends or charities to help balance the score sheet.


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I would bet my bottom dollar that Szerementa omitted from his europa mag, how he fleeced thousands of people with his 'membership' scam costing £50 to join his european poker 'club' or whatever it was about 10 to 12 years ago, i joined and 3 weeks later it was disbanded with no recourse for a refund.

I would have suggested a lawsuit for defemation of character to bust this charletan, but then again we 'in the know' know the score, and if your looking for justice in a british court of law, then forget it, unless you happen to be a mason approaching the 33rd degree of scottish freemasonary?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'm a little scared right now. Excuse me I have to go ring the Mammy.

She'll probably post here saying that after 22 years people already know if you're one of the good guys or one of the bad guys.

btw, what'll you give me for a five years old Seiko submariner? Things are a little tight after citywest....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: Poker Europe Inaccurate as Usual Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Dave 'Devilfish' Ulliott wrote:
In my opinion this description describes a man who climbs into houses or shoplifts or something like that. In the book I admit to having emptied lots of wine and liquor stores and also emptying lots of safes.


Lol! So basically what you're saying is you're insulted that he made you out to be 'small time', that you weren't just a petty thief but a much more serious criminal with your fingers in much bigger pots.

Yes indeed. A very serious accusation. As the first poster suggested. You should definitely sue for "defemation of charactor". LMFAO!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Joe The Elegance Beevers
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We will be publishing some great excerpts from Des Wilson’s book here on the Mob site from June 16th and will also have some signed copies that we will be giving away.

Read Des’s article about it here:
http://www.thehendonmob.com/des_wilso...ld_not_sleep.html

I have known Dave Ulliot for well over ten years and he has done some good things and helped people out in that time (me included).

Although Nic was involved with the EPPA, which was probably a bit before it’s time, I am sure all his intentions were honourable and it certainly wasn’t a scam. I was a member and I know that Nic put a lot of unpaid work into trying to make it a success. I do however remember a certain person, who would be considered less scrupulous, taking membership fees in cash at Luton casino when the organisation was more or less disbanded. That would have had nothing to do with Nic and I think that the attack on him is more than a little unfair.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Joe The Elegance Beevers wrote:
We will be publishing some great excerpts from Des Wilson’s book here on the Mob site from June 16th and will also have some signed copies that we will be giving away.

Read Des’s article about it here:
http://www.thehendonmob.com/des_wilso...ld_not_sleep.html

I have known Dave Ulliot for well over ten years and he has done some good things and helped people out in that time (me included).

Although Nic was involved with the EPPA, which was probably a bit before it’s time, I am sure all his intentions were honourable and it certainly wasn’t a scam. I was a member and I know that Nic put a lot of unpaid work into trying to make it a success. I do however remember a certain person, who would be considered less scrupulous, taking membership fees in cash at Luton casino when the organisation was more or less disbanded. That would have had nothing to do with Nic and I think that the attack on him is more than a little unfair.


It was probably the same person that fleeced me, or could it be a few people were scamming people like myself that stumped up the £50? i remember shelling it out at the isle of man festival and 3 weeks later the EPPA liquidated i believe. One wonders where all the 'pink persuaders' (£50 notes) went if the board were being unpaid? As you say probably straight into the pocket of these scamsters?

I will retract my 'smearing' of Nic as silly me thought that being on the 'board' of the EPPA, then the subscriptions would have gone to the people setting the organisation up? then again if any tom dick or harry were dishing these cards out like confetti without any checks its hardly suprisng the EPPA folded like a cheap suitcase, a shame really as as you say it was before its time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nic has asked me to post and point out that he left the EPPA over a year before it disbanded and that when the EPPA folded there were some funds in the organisation. These were added to a tournament and distributed to its members.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Joe The Elegance Beevers wrote:
Nic has asked me to post and point out that he left the EPPA over a year before it disbanded and that when the EPPA folded there were some funds in the organisation. These were added to a tournament and distributed to its members.


I guess i really should do some sleuthing before putting my big mouth in 'it' 'again'.

Nic if your reading, please accept my most humble apologies Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

When describing someone's background you just have to get the facts right. 'Devilfish' was trying to say that his illgotten gains were definitely not through petty theft, but heavy duty crime, otherwise he could not have afforded a 'Pawnbroker Shop' 22 years ago. He's not proud of his shady past, but a Pawn Shop was expensive to buy in those days. A petty criminal could never afford such luxuries. lmao.
Come on Dave, think about what you're writing, before protecting that swollen ego. Come and play in Moscow, if you think you're hard enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Although there is something funny and charming about the idea that David is insulted to be called a "small time" thief because he was a big time thief, personally I don't think that's the important point and there is a distinction in his post which is worth making. "Climbing into someone's house" is a much more horrible, cheap and invasive crime than knocking off a wine shop. Obviously no stealing is great. But there is a difference.
Dave, I have read Des Wilson's book now (which I enjoyed a lot) and I think you come out of it very well: having started from a clearly tough and deprived background, and initially gone in the wrong direction, you pulled it round, found your God-given talent and used it to make a huge success of your life on the world stage - and if that has enabled you to help other people along the way, that is even more important and a huge credit to you. You should be proud of the book and yourself.
(The only thing I would say is that I wish you'd go back to wearing suits, which are so much cooler than this whole jeans thing.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Vicky C wrote:
(The only thing I would say is that I wish you'd go back to wearing suits, which are so much cooler than this whole jeans thing.)Hope to see you soon, VC x


Im wearing suits from now on Cool Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Suites Vs Jeans Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

He Pawned the suit to buy the Jeans Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Vicky C wrote:
"Climbing into someone's house" is a much more horrible, cheap and invasive crime than knocking off a wine shop.


Depends on the wine shop. I used to know a couple (since gone to Aus and no longer a couple) who ran an offy for one of the major chains, they got very pissed off with being 'done' every couple of months, especially as they were in bed upstairs at the time.

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(The only thing I would say is that I wish you'd go back to wearing suits, which are so much cooler than this whole jeans thing.)
Hope to see you soon, VC x


Get a room!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

oldbloke wrote:
Vicky C wrote:
"Climbing into someone's house" is a much more horrible, cheap and invasive crime than knocking off a wine shop.


Depends on the wine shop. I used to know a couple (since gone to Aus and no longer a couple) who ran an offy for one of the major chains, they got very pissed off with being 'done' every couple of months, especially as they were in bed upstairs at the time.

Vicky C wrote:
(The only thing I would say is that I wish you'd go back to wearing suits, which are so much cooler than this whole jeans thing.)
Hope to see you soon, VC x


Get a room!


I own and run a shop, I'd be just as devistated if someone broke into my shop as my house. Infact I'd be more pissed-off about my shop as I'd loose at least a days trade, plus the excess on the shop is more than the house insurance. I fail to see the difference between knocking off a house and a shop, even if its a large chains they are predominatly owned by share holders, mostly these share holders are pensions funds, so its not a rich billionairs that sufers (well might not be) but ordanry Joes.

What ever Dave has done in his life has made him what he is to day and I'm sure its not a rout he'd advise anyone else to take. From what I've seen of him in teh media he seems a good bloke, I've never heard of anyone slagging the guy off (execpt the guy Dave was complainig about) but please don't patornise people trying to make out that one type of theft is more "noble" or less anti-socail than another.
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