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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:52 pm
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Right - I have decided to have a good crack at MTT's and see if i can get to a nice 4 figure score and beyond.

I am a recreational player and afford myself £200 - £300 a month to play pokerz, MTT wise i am a losing player but have managed to get a lot of that back playing cash games historically.

I have looked around and don't think i can honestly afford the coaching i am after (Sad but honest), therefore i feel i have to have to keep my current forums + Deuces approach in order to learn and progress. I do spend some time analysing my own game through HEM but no where near enough.

I plan on using this thread to post awkward hands or just post retardeness on certain hands in order to try and bounce ideas around off some of the forums better MTT players.

My weaknesses:

Play too many variants of the game (Not sure which is my best)
Occasionally too passive post flop - Probably linked to the i give them too much credit school of thought.
No bankroll management as i just re-deposit as and when

Strengths:

Good reads
Even tempered game

Ideally i would like an experienced forumite to take me under their wing and impart their infinite wisdom - Failing that i would love this thread to become a tool to review and critique my own game which in turn could benefit others in a similar situation.

Here goes................
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:05 pm
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ive played pretty much every type of poker and whilst i couldnt coach im happy to discuss hands on this when ive time
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:07 pm
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Nice one Hackett. Very Happy

My first question is - what made the MTT challenge in January different from your other months of play?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:50 pm
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Hey Hackett,

I know this may be a bit of an unpopular suggestion but if I was in your shoes I would put your £300 to one side for 6 months, then say when you have $3k, put it on to stars and you'll be able to play $15 - $30 tournaments.

I say this for a couple of reasons, firstly, you'll end up just keep reloading to play $5 tournaments, which have way too many runners to be hugely profitable, yes, you can usually grind in to the money but for what?... $1 profit and 3 hours of your time. Don't get me wrong, if you put the volume in you will hit a few F/T but that could take months.

Also, once you get your head above the masses - i'd say about the $20 buy in level - the field size goes right down and you can let your skills do the talking and see a much better ROI. Where perhaps you are hitting 10% positive in a four figure field, in a three figure field, you could reasonably expect 20% ROI over about 1500 games. obviously 20% return on a $30 tourney is starting to become more worth your time.

If you are saving you can hit the books for a few months, i'd spend time reading good tourney strategy books, watching replays on stars and good videos on MTTs to make sure you are totally prepared.

Finally, I don't think it's a problem playing different variants, it only becomes challenging if you are say playing stud and multi-tabling you may not be able to concentrate on other's door cards but there is software that takes care of tracking cards and working out the percentages if you aren't giving it all your attention.

Anyway that's my two cent. Wish you luck mate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:14 am
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mddgfc wrote:
ive played pretty much every type of poker and whilst i couldnt coach im happy to discuss hands on this when ive time


Love that shit - If you see a hand or have anything you wish to add to the thread then i would love to hear it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:18 am
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StGilmore wrote:
Nice one Hackett. Very Happy

My first question is - what made the MTT challenge in January different from your other months of play?


Honestly - I am not sure if it is focus that strive or genuine engagement in myself and others to better not only my own game but all those who contribute as a reader / contributor or mentor in this thread.

Never been one to articulate through blogs etc, so will use this thread as my journey.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:21 am
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_ryanpb_ wrote:
Hey Hackett,

I know this may be a bit of an unpopular suggestion but if I was in your shoes I would put your £300 to one side for 6 months, then say when you have $3k, put it on to stars and you'll be able to play $15 - $30 tournaments.

I say this for a couple of reasons, firstly, you'll end up just keep reloading to play $5 tournaments, which have way too many runners to be hugely profitable, yes, you can usually grind in to the money but for what?... $1 profit and 3 hours of your time. Don't get me wrong, if you put the volume in you will hit a few F/T but that could take months.

Also, once you get your head above the masses - i'd say about the $20 buy in level - the field size goes right down and you can let your skills do the talking and see a much better ROI. Where perhaps you are hitting 10% positive in a four figure field, in a three figure field, you could reasonably expect 20% ROI over about 1500 games. obviously 20% return on a $30 tourney is starting to become more worth your time.

If you are saving you can hit the books for a few months, i'd spend time reading good tourney strategy books, watching replays on stars and good videos on MTTs to make sure you are totally prepared.

Finally, I don't think it's a problem playing different variants, it only becomes challenging if you are say playing stud and multi-tabling you may not be able to concentrate on other's door cards but there is software that takes care of tracking cards and working out the percentages if you aren't giving it all your attention.

Anyway that's my two cent. Wish you luck mate.


Appreciate your thoughts Ryan - I thinking coaching is probably the single biggest thing which improve my game currently but from the limited things i have seen that is a fair amount of cash to outlay compared to my current stakes.

Although i have indicated a 4 figure score and beyond is my primary goal, i love playing and want to continue to do so whilst improving what game i currently have.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:44 am
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if you are planning to play any plo, plo8, razz, stud 8 it would be great to discuss any hands, stats, strategy etc. obviously nlh to but i dont know how much to push fold you can add. lol
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:22 am
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hackett wrote:
Appreciate your thoughts Ryan - I thinking coaching is probably the single biggest thing which improve my game currently but from the limited things i have seen that is a fair amount of cash to outlay compared to my current stakes.

Although i have indicated a 4 figure score and beyond is my primary goal, i love playing and want to continue to do so whilst improving what game i currently have.


I paid $60 for the first coaching lesson I had and it was worth many times that because the coach answered every question I threw at him, found some weaknesses and also gave me a lot of confidence in my game. My favourite video site for MTTs is Tournament Poker Edge. They have a couple of really good players on there and there's no signing on fee. Finally Stars have some regular speed (15m blinds) $11 180s. The 1st prize is $542 but there will be less variance with a small field size.

GL at the tables.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:19 am
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Decide today is going to be a good day to have a crack at a few MTT's. Loaded up a few and was doing well in the Big $3 - Double average stack after 2 hours of play, then:



Software won't upgrade as i tried several times during the break.

Can't log in at all - Complete waste of time - TY Stars!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:40 am
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hackett wrote:
Decide today is going to be a good day to have a crack at a few MTT's. Loaded up a few and was doing well in the Big $3 - Double average stack after 2 hours of play, then:



Software won't upgrade as i tried several times during the break.

Can't log in at all - Complete waste of time - TY Stars!!


this happened to me the other day mate , just uninstall and re-install , job done !!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:39 am
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Here is an example of - Could this have been played differently??

About average stack in the Big $3.30 - Often getting 20 - 30bb stacks nearing the money (200 away but a lot of smaller stacks left in). Tendency lately is to have a workable stack at this point but i either don't get the cards to build the stack or the opportunity is taken away from me by aggressive players to my right.

The hand AKos in the BB - Raised 4 x bb by a 26/18/14 player (VP/PFR/3 bet%) - He has been fairly solid thus far nothing massively out of the norm.



Thought about raising it up out of the blinds but figured i am putting nearly a 1/3rd (ish) of my stack in the middle OOP - Decided to shove and take away the issue of playing a missed AK in a large pot.

Got the call which when shown was great but:

3 bet pre and then see the flop stabbing once
Call and disguise the strength of my hand which could be a monster if the A or K hits the flop
Shove and put him to the test - Either adding an additional 20% to my stack or flipping for a big pot to go to 60BB stack.

Thoughts??
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:19 am
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shove is defo the right play here for me!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:31 am
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Good luck fella.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:31 am
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hackett wrote:
Here is an example of - Could this have been played differently??


Well yeah, but you played it fine - you got all the chips in when you were dominating him!

hackett wrote:
Thought about raising it up out of the blinds but figured i am putting nearly a 1/3rd (ish) of my stack in the middle OOP - Decided to shove and take away the issue of playing a missed AK in a large pot


You have to reraise pre, most of the strength of AK is in the fold equity it has preflop. You only have Ace high after all. Of course it is huge later on in tourneys and a monster vs a late position raiser.

hackett wrote:
Shove and put him to the test - Either adding an additional 20% to my stack or flipping for a big pot to go to 60BB stack.


If people will call you with A10, KQ etc then why not shove preflop? Flipping 30BBs vs a pair is fine - go for the big stack where you can bully people.
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