West Ham United

[whammer]

Can see no thread but here's my brief take for others to add to.

Allardyce doing what is needed to bag the points/place us where we need to be for a promotion push. Football at times pretty woeful. Very important we kept hold of Green who is having a very good season to date. This will probably be the season Collison and Tomkins become proper players (progressing from promising youngsters). Been very unlucky with injuries to quality loanees like Landsbury and Bentley as well as full timers like Matty Taylor. Those three in fact, take away a large chunk of creativity which obviously contributes to the 'woeful football' factor.

Will we go up? Promising start points wise with injuries so I'd have to say 'likely' but a long season ahead, assuming nothing.

Will I want to watch the keeper launching the ball into the channels for a 6'6" striker in 18 months rather than playing football from the back like we always have? Absolutely not but priority one is promotion so temporarily (and only temporarily) we have to let the manager do what he needs to do to achieve this.
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[dezza666]

The number one issue which needed addressing was the defending, which has been poor since Curbishley left. The defending reached comical depths last season, resulting in relegation.

Say what you like about Allardyce, but his teams are generally set up correctly, and good adjustments/subs are made during the game. Foundations are being put in place. Total contrast to last season - no EPL team gave away more points from a winning position than West Ham last season i believe.

Yesterday we racked up our 5th away win and we're barely into November.

Creativity is an issue, but it's probably the last piece of the jigsaw, and as Whammer says, injuries have not helped.

Will we go up? I believe so, because we will only get stronger as the season unfolds. Though we are fortunate that there is no outstanding team running away at the top as in previous years. Soton have good momentum and are playing some good stuff - would be a hell of an achievement if they kept that going - no-one else in the division is playing consistently good football.
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[whammer]

some good points there mate and defending was key last season, several seasons in fact.

you mention curbishley but he never really won the natives over did he? i fear the same for allardyce long term.

southampton will hit two or three games and will then be tested. unlike us, no massive injury list but all part of the game i guess.

i love the way we shut teams down and give 100% like everton but can never condone the keeper launching it into the channels for 'a tall one' to hopefully get his nut on it.

some of the key pieces are being laid and needed laying so fair play. nobody can run before they can walk and i hope we do start to play some proper football at some stage.

most of us would rather see an entertaining 2-2 than an average 1-0 win though - that's why we'll never win anything probably but it can be a beautiful game and we should always try to maintain a 'ball on deck' approach (unlike at present a lot of the time)

fingers crossed
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[Indestructible]

TBH I have allways thought the West Ham plays good football in the West Ham way and all that to be a bit of an urban myth.

[penko910]

New young striker you guys picked up from Mk Dons looks like he has a decent instinct to find the net. Baldock I think his name is.

I see big sam has brought in a couple of typical allaydyce players such as carew and nolan, but I think when he was appointed it was inevitable these would be the type of players he would go for, but he will probably get you up, and get you into a solid position in the prem.

[zebediah]

While playing at the APAT the other week. the half time scores filtered through and someone mentioned how well Newcastle were doing, then a guy went into a seriously epic rant (he had no idea of my allegiance).

Basically that Pardew is a complete tosser, this good start is short term and he will ruin them just you wait and see, he'll relegate them next year etc etc etc.

While most amusing I was also suprised as I thought his managerial peak had been with West Ham. But this guy absolutely detested him

Is this how other hammers feel about him???
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because you very very retardo i lose

[dezza666]

[ThechipLeadV]

[Grumbledook]

your wife cheating on you with pardew, you'd be double gutted, pardew wtf

[whammer]

pardew held in high regard by most west ham supporters, i'd say

the fletchers wife thing (with others) isn't going to command dressing room respect and the very average nigel reo-coker (thinking he was pele at the time), with added attitude and disruption to boot, had a negative effect, especially on the likes on anton ferdinand and one or two other 'bling crew' as was touted by many at the time - thinking they only had to turn up at chadwell heath in their bentleys to bag points

all turned sour with pardew's midlife crisis and rival factions in the dressing room

for me it's a real shame - his team played some decent football and he was excellent with the media (which is a big part of prem football) and he did have a good rapport generally with the supporters

as for the 'football' comment indy, it's no myth - anyone long in the tooth knows west ham and even your own mob, have generally tried to play the game the right way over the years (on the deck) and this is known by all supporters

the fact that both teams have won very little, suggests the answer is a mix of both - or a billionaire eastern european semi-gangster/minted sheikh owner of course
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[whammer]

no change in 2012

extremely poor football and we have a shot at going up

this manager is not for me

ideal scenario - promotion and then get a 'football' manager in

sounds harsh but SA's on a huge bonus - nearly as big as his ego some say

the guy has no class and has not once spoken of any tactical mistakes he's made

launchball from keeper to often one up front

any problems are due to the supporters apparently

keep this manager and remove 'academy' from all parts of the ground and memorabilia for fear of being sued

west ham 'til i die but this one's a basic $hit sorter and has nothing thereafter

the $hit sorting's done btw

1-1 today up at leeds, we are better away from home
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[whammer]

1-1 today up at leeds, we are better away from home

woeful nonsense last night - never ever had the feeling of such 'nothingness' about going to a game

this manager won't last at our place and rightly so - as anti-football and self centered as a person can get

looking like play offs and making soton look very good - which they ain't really

depressing stuff

di canio, tony carr, alvin martin - two from three next season to bring the excitement back

risk? of course but we'd back that f ng rollercoaster - unlike the toad who is sucking the life out of the club

the sh t sorting is done sam - you have zero to offer from here on in and haven't for some time once the fitness was sorted and deadwood cleared

1-2 away win this saturday btw
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[ThechipLeadV]

I can see di canio happening.

Plus he is absolutely funny as **** in league 2 - one of two reasons I ever check there. He needs more press attention.

[The Dean]

[whammer]

many of us questioned these at the time dean and G+S have admitted their mistakes

thing for me though, we could be a rangers or pompey without our current owners plotting up and despite the poor football and poor management, i think we as supporters owe them time

hope you and yours are well btw squire
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