wwyd - Advanced PLO players

[PokerSensation]

PL Omaha $20(BB)
Hero ($2,560)
BB ($2,000)
BTN ($6,380)

Dealt to Hero 5 4 T T

BTN raises to $70, Hero calls $60, fold

FLOP - $160 3 7 6

Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN - $160 3 7 6 A

Hero checks, BTN bets $120, Hero raises to $500, BTN calls $380

RIVER - $1,160 3 7 6 A 3

Hero??

Is this an obvious b/f? Any other options?

[darrensprengers]

bet the flop
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[DCSW7]

3 handed?

Pot flop.
Pot turn.
Probably check-call river if it got that far.

(Far from advanced, but thats why I play micro-stakes!)
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[oneshotbob]

the op asks what i would do. I would check call and then curse myself for calling when i knew he had a full house.
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[PokerSensation]

My image was decent and I was playing tight pre but bet strong on flops and turns - hence the chek raise.

[PokerSensation]

There are a lot of things to consider here. Making the raise on the turn suggests i can beat AAA as its not a wet board. Then again does villan shove turn with that hand. Anyway, river is a tough spot...

[knifeboy62]

caveat: I am far from advanced player.

Seems to me it would be completely player/history dependent but in the absence of any history I cannot see value of checking the flop. I pot the flop and if called I pot the turn.

It seems weak as hell but I probably c/f the river here as I cannot see any check behind, bet/call hand on the turn that is not a set so I am probably dead.

I would have thought that any advanced player here would re-pot any kind of sub-pot sized river bet by you with their entire range so unless you are prepared to b/f away 40% of your starting stack on river then I can't see a better choice.

PS. if above is nonsense please remember the caveat
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[jellyface]

This interests me too, and would be great if some more advanced PLO players would comment.

I like the look of the hand, but is it worth a call preflop OOP?

I would probably bet the flop too, but is this a good idea when you have the nuts, but absolutely no redraws? Would you be calling a repot bet with it on either street?

I would be check/folding the river.
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[barmybadger]

the perils of playing uncoordinated hands out of position
definitely a hand you want to win a small pot with quickly and avoid getting into a big pot with.
as it is check fold ...unless thats what they expect
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[7pounds]

Yeah its a tricky spot, whats the hands he is calling you on the river
A58 A89 A910 and 2 pairs ,and any of these is unlikely, u cutting 10 and others he would c bet on flop , rational thinking I would check call

[The Dean]

To deduce what we need to do on the river then we need to play the hand backwards from the river based on what we know about villain......need more info on this guy.......what do you have on him?

Pre-flop call is fine three handed when looked at in a vaccum as your equity stacks well againts a raisers range.

Off the top of my head then betting for value looks shaky as it is difficult to see him call with worse after your turn c/r line and the board pairing on the river. Would imagine this game would be very aggressive and so he has far more than AA when he flats the turn but this depends on your image........need loads more info here to reach a decision.

[Joe The Elegance Beevers]

I don't mind the call too much 3 handed preflop. In a full game I don't call that raise from the small blind though.

Some times I would bet this flop, sometimes I would check to raise and sometimes even check just to call. You have a horrible (probably the worst) nut straight but at least there are no flush draws. 29 cards change the nuts (less the 4 that are in your hand) and unless you pick up your one back door flush draw or turn a ten your hand is going nowhere.

In order to decide what to do you have to put him on a hand.

If he had a hand like 78910 he would almost certainly have bet the flop as many wouldn't even mind getting it all in in a spot like that. As he checks on the button I don't give him a hand like that now.

Your check raise on the turn is massive. There are still no flush draws. We have ruled out most straight wraps or wraps with pairs.

It is very tough to call on the turn with two pair unless there is history.

He could have a set of 6s or 7s and he checked the flop for deception. He could have a set of aces.

I almost certainly check fold the river in this exact spot.

He has to likely give you the straight. He can't have nothing, the turn play is way too strong for that. Some players would call with the straight even after the board pairs so he is very likely to have the straight beaten.

For me the defining play here is the big call of your turn raise. That tells you his hand.
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[Joe The Elegance Beevers]

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