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madride
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:05 pm
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What is this table?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:40 pm
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the table if you take out messi and ronaldo?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:47 pm
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oneshotbob wrote:
the table if you take out messi and ronaldo?


Ding ding we have a winner Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:11 am
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Highlighting Madrid and Barca didn't really help the question...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:45 pm
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What is this? I don't get any idea from this table?
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I don't see the point of the table.......if that is a table quoting positions without Ronaldo and Messi then it is silly to even think that Barcelona without Messi all season would be 6th in La Liga......ditto with Real only having so few points. They utilise these players when they are in the side and fit but to even infer that they would only have these points totals without them is silly......I know it is probably done tongue in cheek but a totally pointless table because the strength in depth of both their squads dictates that they would still be up there challenging for everything.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:01 pm
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fair point dean, arsenal without RVP however...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:06 pm
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Grumbledook wrote:
fair point dean, arsenal without RVP however...



I agree.......I think Smile

I think if we could look into a crystal ball and see season ending points totals for Real with and without Ronaldo, Barce with and without Messi and Arsenal with and without RVP then there would be a greater difference with RVP and the Arsenal points totals than the other examples IMO......although I have a feeling it would be marginal......very wily character that Mr Wenger.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:19 pm
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i dont think any 10 man team would do any good in the premier league or la ligue
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:40 pm
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It is still useful, as it shows that Barca rely on Messi more than Madrid rely on Ronaldo. Agree that their positions relative to 11 men teams is not like-with-like.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:57 pm
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darrensprengers wrote:
i dont think any 10 man team would do any good in the premier league or la ligue




I don't think it means that Darren, I think it means the effect if you replaced them with other squad members.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:59 pm
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oneshotbob wrote:
It is still useful, as it shows that Barca rely on Messi more than Madrid rely on Ronaldo. Agree that their positions relative to 11 men teams is not like-with-like.



Are you sure about that.......Madrid are 4pts ahead of Barce in that table and are 4pts ahead of them in the real table.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:34 pm
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The Dean wrote:
darrensprengers wrote:
i dont think any 10 man team would do any good in the premier league or la ligue




I don't think it means that Darren, I think it means the effect if you replaced them with other squad members.


but they just took off his goals. higuain has a better goal to game ratio than ronaldo. and benzema is no mug. i think barca prob do struggle a bit as their strikers dont really score.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:59 pm
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Grumbledook wrote:
fair point dean, arsenal without RVP however...


However what?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:00 pm
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WBPP wrote:
Grumbledook wrote:
fair point dean, arsenal without RVP however...


However what?


Bottom 3?
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