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maxwell675
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:07 pm
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any thoughts?

GAME #3874500974: Holdem NL - 2011-12-04 18:18:03
Tournament (581446831)
Table iPOPS #4 $500,000 GP
Server poker34.ipoker.com

Seat 1: stelowhelo (9,805.00 in chips)
Seat 2: Toph2o (9,685.00 in chips)
Seat 3: LolUrFace (10,200.00 in chips)
Seat 4: osaandr (10,375.00 in chips)
Seat 5: Maxwellthm (9,685.00 in chips)
Seat 6: IRNY0U (9,735.00 in chips)
Seat 8: ccpfcrf (10,395.00 in chips)
Seat 9: ruthamy62 (10,000.00 in chips)
Seat 10: supermanatemydog (10,120.00 in chips)

IRNY0U: SB 15.00
ccpfcrf: BB 30.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Maxwellthm [D8 DJ]
ruthamy62: Fold
supermanatemydog: Fold
stelowhelo: Fold
Toph2o: Fold
LolUrFace: Fold
osaandr: Call 30.00
Maxwellthm: Raise 120.00
IRNY0U: Call 105.00
ccpfcrf: Call 90.00
osaandr: Fold
*** FLOP *** [SJ SK C7]
IRNY0U: Check
ccpfcrf: Check
Maxwellthm: Check
*** TURN *** [SJ SK C7 C8]
IRNY0U: Bet 292.50
ccpfcrf: Fold
Maxwellthm: Raise 750.00
IRNY0U: Raise 1,980.00
Maxwellthm: Call 1,230.00
*** RIVER *** [SJ SK C7 C8 C3]
IRNY0U: Bet 3,262.50
Maxwellthm: Call 3,262.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Maxwellthm: shows (mucked) [D8 DJ] (Two pair)
IRNY0U: shows [H10 C9] (Straight)

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10,875.00
IRNY0U: wins 10,875.00
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smoothcallz
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:18 am
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can i just ask if there was any reason y you didn't c-bet? (in Position?) (as the pre-flop raiser?)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:01 pm
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smoothcallz wrote:
can i just ask if there was any reason y you didn't c-bet? (in Position?) (as the pre-flop raiser?)


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sheriffatman
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:13 pm
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smoothcallz wrote:
can i just ask if there was any reason y you didn't c-bet? (in Position?) (as the pre-flop raiser?)


- maybe because the flop hits the blinds calling ranges,he is up against two opponents, and doesn't want to get chk/raised off his 2nd pair hd? (just my observations-apologies if wide of mark)
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maxwell675
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:17 pm
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I guess I was thinking pot control on the the flop with second pair.

On the turn I raised to protect my two pair on a draw heavy board, when I got 3-bet I considered folding, but when I called the turn I was calling most river bets.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:30 pm
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Only thing I would add is that I always raise larger pre flop over a limper. One limper at least 5x - and that's with a solid hand. With J8s or anything I would be raising to 180 or 210 or even more.
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smoothcallz
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:00 am
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sheriffatman wrote:
smoothcallz wrote:
can i just ask if there was any reason y you didn't c-bet? (in Position?) (as the pre-flop raiser?)


- maybe because the flop hits the blinds calling ranges,he is up against two opponents, and doesn't want to get chk/raised off his 2nd pair hd? (just my observations-apologies if wide of mark)


If i'm going to raise this hand this deep, i'm going to c-bet this hand this deep.*


* i didn't look at the stack sizes the first time around properly.


saying that i could also find the fold button this deep after im shown so much aggression Pre.


Checking is very passive considering your raising this aggressively (ip) you can shut down if


your c-bet is called/(raised), and a nasty card hits the turn. (barrel again if a bric hits).


I'm pissed.. i may edit/delete this in the morning Smile


More views on this would be interesting.
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