Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
Derek Llambias, the man who brokered the deal that made Andy Carroll the most expensive Englishman in football history, has sensationally claimed: “He’s worth f*** all!”
The Toon MD’s disparaging verdict on England striker Carroll (below) came when he was giving a group of Newcastle fans an insight into the £35million deal that took the England striker to Liverpool in January.
Llambias insists that Newcastle got the better of the deal.
The Anfield club’s first bid was £30m and Llambias told the fans: “I have to admit that £30m for Andy Carroll is a lot of money.”
When one supporter asked him “Is he worth £30m?” Llambias responded: “No — he’s worth f*** all.” He then explains that after rejecting the £30m offer, Newcastle refused to sell even for £35m unless Liverpool paid the entire fee up front.
A move that forced Liverpool to ask Chelsea to increase their first instalment of the £50m they had already agreed to pay for Fernando Torres!
Llambias explained: “It is about control.
“We had the control. We knew the Torres deal was there.
“We drew that f****** deal, perhaps the ultimate.
“So £30m? F*** off! Don’t waste my time and I slammed the phone down.
“£35m? Everybody including Pardew [manager Alan Pardew] all agreed.
“But the £35m they wanted to pay over four years. It was rubbish. Mike (Ashley) said — and he is a brave boy Mike I promise you — get all the £35m up front.
“We got it all up front and then they never paid us on time and we charged them 12 grand f****** interest.”
Newcastle managing director Derek Llambias stunned Toon Army fans by unleashing an astonising, foul-mouthed rant in public on Geordie icons Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan.
The former casino boss — who virtually never gives media interviews — delivered a withering condemnation on the managerial abilities of the Magpies legends in front of startled onlookers in a Newcastle gastro bar.
Llambias, who along with Toon owner Mike Ashley has enraged Toon fans by re-branding historic St. James’ Park as the Sports Direct Arena, blamed Shearer for Newcastle’s 2009 relegation and claimed there “will never be a right time” for the former England skipper in management.
And in a blistering broadside aimed at Keegan, the Magpies MD claimed the former England boss is unable to cope with the stresses and strains of management.
Llambias railed: “Kevin Keegan can’t take pressure. His f****** head is all over the place.”
He also made a shocking claim in a meeting with fans last month that Keegan’s second coming as Newcastle manager in 2008 came about *because he was the preferred choice of potential Arab buyers. He revealed: “Mike (Ashley) was selling to the Arabs and they wanted Kevin Keegan.
“The Arabs wanted him, the fans wanted him — perfect!”
A candid Llambias admitted he was at fault for recruiting Shearer as manager in April 2009 when Newcastle were battling to avoid the drop.
Llambias said: “Shearer was my choice and I have to hold up my hands — the wrong choice.”
Referring to the relegation battle and the managerial team of Shearer and Iain Dowie, he claimed: “Shearer, for this, destroys us. He gave all the responsibility to Dowie. Rubbish!”
A supporter suggests “It wasn’t the right time” for Shearer. Llambias responded brusquely, and said: “It would never be the right time. Shearer? There would never be a right time in football.”
When one of the onlookers suggested Shearer is arrogant, Llambias agreed and said: “You guys have given him that arrogance.”
What will perplex Newcastle fans about Llambias’ put-down of the Geordie hero is the fact that days after relegation, Ashley issued a statement in which he said: “Bringing Alan Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision I have made.”
Chris Hughton succeeded Shearer as manager and led Toon back into the top flight at the first attempt as champions.
Hughton was sacked by Newcastle a year ago, and is now manager of Birmingham.
He was also in the Llambias line of fire when one of the group asked why he was dismissed.
Llambias responded: “He would never have taken us where we want to be.
“That’s my decision by the way.
“Chris can’t make decisions. If I am asking about a player, Ben Arfa? he says ‘I’m not sure, blah blah’.
“With Chris, he couldn’t cope with where we are mentally. We are aggressive.
“You need to be aggressive. I don’t want a manager below me who can’t argue.”
But of all the colourful claims made by Llambias perhaps the one that will not be disputed by Toon fans is: “You guys don’t understand how f****** horrible we can be.”
After last week’s act of soccer sacrilege at St. James’ Park, many Geordies believe they understand only too well.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
for me, it sounds like the sort of talk you might expect from some randon loudmouth in the pub, wanting to look like the "big man" in front of others, and not exactly what you would expect from the MD of one of Britain's top-ten football clubs!
- bit of an insult to Liverpool/Dalglish as well (not to mention Carroll/Hughton)!
these people (Llambias/Ashley) are supposed to be successful businessmen ffs!
(having said that, Newcastle board members have plenty of previous for this sort of thing so can't really be too surprised by this tbh)
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
sounds like he likes the attention BUT i'd agree with a previous poster
most of his points are probably valid
NOBODY can argue with the amount of dough newcastle have raked in AND started the season superbly
there is not one geordie that expected this good a start to the season i'd say
says a lot for the dressing room motivation
just keep pardew focussed (and not on women he should be swerving and yellow ferrari's) as per yesteryear _________________ Allardyce Out ! We want a FOOTBALL manager.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
whammer wrote:
sounds like he likes the attention BUT i'd agree with a previous poster
most of his points are probably validNOBODY can argue with the amount of dough newcastle have raked in AND started the season superbly
there is not one geordie that expected this good a start to the season i'd saysays a lot for the dressing room motivation
just keep pardew focussed (and not on women he should be swerving and yellow ferrari's) as per yesteryear
I think the old adage of it's not what you say but how you say it (and to whom) applies here -
whilst I agree Pardew has done brilliantly in nurturing a great team spirit at the toon, it seems Ashley/Llambias are determined to unravel his good work by alienating the fans and creating bad feeling - slagging off Shearer/Keegan was never going to be well recieved in these parts!
from what I can tell - Llambias has admitted Shearer was his choice/mistake for manager, yet it is somehow Shearer's fault that it didn't work - he was hardly going to turn the offer down was he, when his club were in the shit?
as for his points mainly being valid - I couldn't disagree more (surprise) - for a man who has never played the game to pass judgement on Keegan,Shearer,Carroll,Hughton et al, in such a manner, just proves what a gobshite he is imo
(how do you think it would go if I walked into an east-end boozer and started slagging off Bobby Moore for example?)
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
sheriffatman wrote:
whammer wrote:
sounds like he likes the attention BUT i'd agree with a previous poster
most of his points are probably validNOBODY can argue with the amount of dough newcastle have raked in AND started the season superbly
there is not one geordie that expected this good a start to the season i'd saysays a lot for the dressing room motivation
just keep pardew focussed (and not on women he should be swerving and yellow ferrari's) as per yesteryear
I think the old adage of it's not what you say but how you say it (and to whom) applies here -
whilst I agree Pardew has done brilliantly in nurturing a great team spirit at the toon, it seems Ashley/Llambias are determined to unravel his good work by alienating the fans and creating bad feeling - slagging off Shearer/Keegan was never going to be well recieved in these parts!
from what I can tell - Llambias has admitted Shearer was his choice/mistake for manager, yet it is somehow Shearer's fault that it didn't work - he was hardly going to turn the offer down was he, when his club were in the shit?
as for his points mainly being valid - I couldn't disagree more (surprise) - for a man who has never played the game to pass judgement on Keegan,Shearer,Carroll,Hughton et al, in such a manner, just proves what a gobshite he is imo
(how do you think it would go if I walked into an east-end boozer and started slagging off Bobby Moore for example?)
What's playing the game got to do with it? He's MD, not a player. Mourinho never played the game.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
fatshaft wrote:
sheriffatman wrote:
whammer wrote:
sounds like he likes the attention BUT i'd agree with a previous poster
most of his points are probably validNOBODY can argue with the amount of dough newcastle have raked in AND started the season superbly
there is not one geordie that expected this good a start to the season i'd saysays a lot for the dressing room motivation
just keep pardew focussed (and not on women he should be swerving and yellow ferrari's) as per yesteryear
I think the old adage of it's not what you say but how you say it (and to whom) applies here -
whilst I agree Pardew has done brilliantly in nurturing a great team spirit at the toon, it seems Ashley/Llambias are determined to unravel his good work by alienating the fans and creating bad feeling - slagging off Shearer/Keegan was never going to be well recieved in these parts!
from what I can tell - Llambias has admitted Shearer was his choice/mistake for manager, yet it is somehow Shearer's fault that it didn't work - he was hardly going to turn the offer down was he, when his club were in the shit?
as for his points mainly being valid - I couldn't disagree more (surprise) - for a man who has never played the game to pass judgement on Keegan,Shearer,Carroll,Hughton et al, in such a manner, just proves what a gobshite he is imo
(how do you think it would go if I walked into an east-end boozer and started slagging off Bobby Moore for example?)
What's playing the game got to do with it? He's MD, not a player. Mourinho never played the game.
- well, my point was that it seems a bit rich to me for someone who has little knowledge/experience of football to openly slate the abilities of others who have proven track-records in football and are respected figures in the game (as well as being heroes in the north-east in the case of Shearer and Keegan)
- strikes me as either extremely arrogant, deliberately provocative/disrespectful or just plain stupid
(btw-really can't see where Mourinho comes into it apart from the fact that he is an example of a sucessful manager with little playing experience)
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
i'm hear to learn as i'm an outside observer on NUFC mate
the stuff about some of your old hero's is low and unwarranted, agreed
that said, in a results based industry, things have gone ok
i wish your team well - for some reason both our sets of fans seem to have a lot of time for each other (well supported and underachieving similarities most likely)
and i really hope you have a good season
_________________ Allardyce Out ! We want a FOOTBALL manager.
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
Yeah, thanks for that, Whammer.
Sorry if I went a bit OTT - obviously protective of my club, and us toonites are a bit like Jack Russell terriers - super friendly and loyal, but threaten us,or our territory, and we'll snap you're hand off!
I can remember there was nearly always bother when West Ham visited us back in the day (late-80s), but agree there exists a mutual respect of sorts between the fans of both clubs. ('real footy supporters')
Good luck and Best Wishes for promotion!
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
cheers
you're probably long enough in the tooth to remember the petrol bomb you welcomed us with back in the day, at st.james' ? _________________ Allardyce Out ! We want a FOOTBALL manager.
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
yeah, pretty sure I was at that match - it wasn't me btw
glad all that is in the past!
can't say I really like ashley/llambias, but s'pose at least the club is doing well and is fairly solvent so can't complain too much, just wish they would consult fans more
(I know- I'm an idealist!)
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
sheriffatman wrote:
- well, my point was that it seems a bit rich to me for someone who has little knowledge/experience of football to openly slate the abilities of others who have proven track-records in football and are respected figures in the game (as well as being heroes in the north-east in the case of Shearer and Keegan) *
- strikes me as either extremely arrogant, deliberately provocative/disrespectful or just plain stupid **
(btw-really can't see where Mourinho comes into it apart from the fact that he is an example of a sucessful manager with little playing experience) ***
* Shearer has no track record in the game, as a manager. Lambias is a director, he is not there to run football tactics, but to pick a man to do that job on his ability, track record, and if no track record, then potential to do the job well based on the same stuff you'd put foprward at any presentation for a major job. Having played or managed football is not a requirement to do that. It should be noted, he has for some time beeen involved in football now, you I presume have never been, yet you question his utterances here? You see where I'm going with this?
** Or perhaps, due to his experiences with said club/individuals?
*** You're making out that having played football in some capacity gives you an edge over someone who hasn't with respect to having an opinion that is more valid or worthy. I gave you Mourinho as a massive example of why playing football is not necessary. Would you for instance have Gazza managing your club, over say, well just about anyone really?
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: Newcastle United's MD lets rip!
fatshaft wrote:
sheriffatman wrote:
- well, my point was that it seems a bit rich to me for someone who has little knowledge/experience of football to openly slate the abilities of others who have proven track-records in football and are respected figures in the game (as well as being heroes in the north-east in the case of Shearer and Keegan) *
- strikes me as either extremely arrogant, deliberately provocative/disrespectful or just plain stupid **
(btw-really can't see where Mourinho comes into it apart from the fact that he is an example of a sucessful manager with little playing experience) ***
* Shearer has no track record in the game, as a manager. Lambias is a director, he is not there to run football tactics, but to pick a man to do that job on his ability, track record, and if no track record, then potential to do the job well based on the same stuff you'd put foprward at any presentation for a major job. Having played or managed football is not a requirement to do that. It should be noted, he has for some time beeen involved in football now, you I presume have never been, yet you question his utterances here? You see where I'm going with this?** Or perhaps, due to his experiences with said club/individuals?
*** You're making out that having played football in some capacity gives you an edge over someone who hasn't with respect to having an opinion that is more valid or worthy. I gave you Mourinho as a massive example of why playing football is not necessary. Would you for instance have Gazza managing your club, over say, well just about anyone really?
1- I didn't say he had and he wasn't the only one slated
2- I didn't say he was
3- You assume a lot for someone who doesn't know me - and aren't you just turning your argument on it's head here? - no, I really don't!
4- No, I am not - I'm simply stating that such criticism is misjudged and crass imo (as well as damaging to the club) and especially so when coming from a guy who has NO track-record in the game at all
btw Ashley has publicly claimed choosing Shearer as manager was the BEST decision he has made since he came to Newcastle (I don't agree)
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