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LOlmENoT
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Ben Grundy Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote


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My stats at $50/$100 PLO for 2008 are sick.....

Total Hands: 17048

Vol. Put $ in Pot: 78% (13,298 out of 17,048)

Amount Won:$1,317,889.50

Win rate per 100 hands: $7,730.46

Big Bets Won per 100 hands: 38.65

Raised Preflop: 41.98%




Run good much? Shocked
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Pasty Power
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
I would guess, swings like this are standard in PLO at this level and that he would need to play a lot more hands to even be sure he is a winner in these games.
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Detective
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
Nice graph.

Uphill, just how he likes it.
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Jack Starr
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
Fantastic well done that man Smile
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Nem
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
Detective wrote:
Nice graph.

Uphill, just how he likes it.


Did you ask his mrs?
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BigTomatoes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
Pasty Power wrote:
I would guess, swings like this are standard in PLO at this level and that he would need to play a lot more hands to even be sure he is a winner in these games.


lol

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Amount Won:$1,317,889.50


i'd say that makes him a winner
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ThechipLeadV
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
BigTomatoes wrote:
Pasty Power wrote:
I would guess, swings like this are standard in PLO at this level and that he would need to play a lot more hands to even be sure he is a winner in these games.


lol

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Amount Won:$1,317,889.50


i'd say that makes him a winner


so when u ge players like gussy, degenamine, and durrr who can drop 1m+ in the space of a day, does this make them losing players?

saying he is def a winner over 42k sample size of hands (or whatever it was a i cba to re-look at pic) is lol


sick graph still
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Detective
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
Nemesis wrote:
Detective wrote:
Nice graph.

Uphill, just how he likes it.


Did you ask his mrs?



Straight over your head
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BigTomatoes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
if you lose over $1 million playing poker , wether it is in one day or one year then you are a loser yes
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The Dean
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
BigTomatoes wrote:
if you lose over $1 million playing poker , wether it is in one day or one year then you are a loser yes



Not necessarily....there is a difference between losing a million and being down a million and the high-stakes nose bleed games require a working bankroll of at least several times that.


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BigTomatoes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
what exactly is the difference ?

if your ' down ' a million its because youve lost a million
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SlowThinker
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
BigTomatoes wrote:
what exactly is the difference ?

if your ' down ' a million its because youve lost a million


If over the year you're up $100,000,000 then dropping a million is no different to being up $1,000 at nl10 and dropping a few buy ins. It doesn't suddenly make you a loser at the game.
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Nem
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
Detective wrote:
Nemesis wrote:
Detective wrote:
Nice graph.

Uphill, just how he likes it.


Did you ask his mrs?



Straight over your head


Touche!

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The Dean
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
BigTomatoes wrote:
what exactly is the difference ?

if your ' down ' a million its because youve lost a million



Nearly all professional gamblers who I know talk of being "up" or "down" and not "winning" or "losing".

What I was saying was that some of these guys have serious seven figure bankrolls and can run good and bad for big seven figure sums just like Grundy and Hansen are doing at the moment. A successful player at this level could well be down a million after say two months but they have only lost it when its lost and can never come back and not when they are probably only temporarily down.

If Liverpool are losing a football match 1-0 then they havent lost it.....yet. They are behind at this moment in time. A loss is something that isnt retrieved. The normal variance in these games dictates that players will be ahead and behind by seven figure sums.


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ScottMGee
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote
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what exactly is the difference ?

if your ' down ' a million its because youve lost a million


Mr Lewis, 71, a tax exile in the Bahamas, is estimated to be worth £1.5 billion in the Forbes annual list of billionaires. The Sunday Times Rich List said he is worth £2.8 billion. But that was before the fall of Bear Stearns.

Dependent upon your view, Joe Lewis has either lost £1.3 billion or made £1.5 billion.

Personally I say he has made £1.5 billion.
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