Michael Savage obliterates a Socialist

[Barny]

[Bogus]

Creq;

God and Jesus failed us.
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[PokerSensation]

You're a good man Barny and you mean well like many who share your beliefs.

I just find high taxes wrong as the money NEVER gets spent correctly. I would not mind at all if it were spent correctly but it never is as governments have their agenda. We are living in fantasy land if we think otherwise. It is also a little more complex as having low taxes encourages entrepreneurialism which leads to innovation and improvements in standards of living for all.

I mainly put that clown Savage on earlier because he can be quality entertainment - that is all. What I said above holds.

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[evelyn]

[Alex B]

[evelyn]

[darrensprengers]

i am bit dismayed at "poker players" not able to do basic maths. the reason there are huge amounts of fat poor people is that there are more poor people. poor people are generated by the capitalist system with a created rich or fortunate, depending on how you want to describe them. i know a lot od rich people and through imbiding, admittidly the best port or whiskey, are incredible unhealthy. they are however a percentage of the rich and as a number are less than the huge amount of "poor" as you all seem to, rather embarrassingly, feel it is not neccessary to define.

It is not about the fatness it is the general unhealthiness.

food stuffs, to cope with the huge demand, are incredibly bad at the moment if you buy the cheapest. Its weird people want to ban cigarettes and yet sugar and saturated fat abuse deaths every year account for many more thousands.

this is an article. there are many, many more examples of how sugar lobbies control information about certain ingredients and there potential health issues.
fat is a bit of red herring. its to do with general health. eating bad food causing people to be unhealthy. i would not say that the government finds it ok due to medicine sales being on our gdp but its food for thought.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19300160
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[Alex B]

[darrensprengers]

@alex b

i would class you as poor and yet you seem to have the wherewithal to eat relatively healthily. that's fine but due to lack of diet education and the difficulty in getting fresh produce particularly in inner city areas it is difficult to eat a balanced diet.

i do not want to eat food full of pesticides and added preservatives, and god knows what cruelty to ainmals and i am lucky enough to be able to afford to buy and research more humanely and healthily.

The problems come when you talk about eating high fat as a way to save money and time. you may not see the external damage which is simply the storage of energy in fat but the internal damage caused by these diets cost the taxpayer millions every year. i had the misfortune to require a serious lung op a few years back and i was in a leading hospital in london's heart and lung ward. there were numerous heart operations for heart disease and i can telll you there were no fatties getting any heart ops. not one of them was overweight let alone obese.

we have no problem banning smoking. i am an ex-smoker and would feel it should not be banned since it seems a freedom of choice. transfats and other horrendous modern food inventions are in the same category. its not about the individual and blaming them it about looking at it in a mathematical whole.

i would not ban macdonalds but i would ban it for the young. when you are old enough to make your decision to be fat, unhealthy, or whatever then on you go. feeding our kids this poison without any directional advice just seems incredibly naive.
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[ReggieK]

Also depends where you live.
Where I come from and where I live now you have all them veg and fruits aplenty at rock bottom prices.
Also I can wander the fields nearby and get all the strawberries (just out of season now), goosegogs (lovely year this year), new taters. carrots, peas etc, and blackberries will be with us in a month, sloes the month after that, and we got apple trees all around here loaded up soon to be picked, and pears on the trees looking good too.

Half of you London types wouldn't have access to such goods, having to buy it at Harrods and all that

Though saying that, the kebab shop in the village do a lovely bogof pizza, and an xxl doner with killer sauce for 5 notes
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[peterH]

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[darrensprengers]

along with working class/poor people there will always be a underclass of stupid people.
people that spend £25 on a take away instead of part of a weekly shop. learn how to make your own burgers and you can save a fortune and also control the quality of the food you eat. most importantly sugar, salt, and any of the bad e numbers you do not with to eat. there are good e-numbers so it is worth the investigation.

when you change the question from poor to mean actually the poorest then these people should be helped. some people are incapable of education and learning to feed themselves properly. we should try and possibly fail but given the huge cost on our health service it should be worth the effort even if you do not feel it is our moral obligation in a society.

to be honest, i dont care what people eat as long as they have had access to all the right information. if people are prepared to eat mcdonalds, burger king etc when they know that it will literally shorten your life. when they really know its true and they still eat it a lot then what more can you do? i just dont think children incapable of making this decision should be subjected to it. parents who are stupid are in all sectors and demi-graphics of society and just like i would not expect parents to make there kids smoke by being around them without the law intervening the same should be true of these types of dangerous foods.

16 or 18 get so fat you are on gerry springer for all i care. shorten your life eating chicken nuggets. knock yourself out

as a society lets not make it easy for parents to be lazy and give their kids shit, quick options. lets make parents show our kids how to cook, look after themsleves. liek they do in other countries. i was in rural czech republic recently with some czechs at my mates weekend house. they had a bbq of sorts with all freshly sourced meat and loads of food made, grown and prepared by themselves.
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