Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: Is this a terrible call?
The £5 raise from Player 4 was a Mississippi straddle and not a raise. Player 4 checks when it returns to him pre flop. He had been straddling and super straddling most hands, but would check his options most times as in this case.
Player 1 was a passive player, but would push top pair, draws, etc no matter how the board is coordinated is.
I am the 2nd short stack at table in a full ring ,other players were away.
Should I have folded this on the flop? I was hoping to see a non dangerous turn and then make my mind up.
Last edited by Paddy1969 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:44 pm; edited 2 times in total
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a terrible call?
PokerSensation wrote:
Paddy1969 wrote:
I wish Player 1 had just called the flop bet, then I could have got away on turn.
Huh??
Player 1 with Q 10. If they call the £20 then I can get away when the board pairs on turn. Mind you, still would have been hard to put either one on a set. I can't put Player 1 on AK as. I know they would have raised pre. Player 4 the Stradler is tricky and could have anything.
I know it was a gamble against 2 players, but just wondering if it is profitable long run with a low flush.
Am I right in thinking I would have been better off maths wise if Player 4 showed a pair with a high club?
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a terrible call?
Paddy1969 wrote:
Should I have folded this on the flop? I was hoping to see a non dangerous turn and then make my mind up.
Forgetting the pre-flop call etc, I think on the flop you have to be in the mind-set that you are currently in the lead. The chances of someone else having a higher flush is very low, particularly on a short-handed table. If someone has one higher-club in their hand, and potentially a hand that will dominate yours, we have identified where 6clubs are, meaning 7 remain=approx 28% of hitting, therefore you are 72% to remain the highest flush. The fact that someone has hit a set is your worse scenario, but still a hand you would like to get it in against on the flop as you remain favourite.
So personally I think its a snap-call on the flop, be happy to get it in. _________________ 'Impatience for victory only guarantees defeat' - Louis XIV
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a terrible call?
Thanks Pizzi, Sean & PS.
I think I was looking for vindication that I did not make such a dogs dinner of a call. You are right, if I am going to call/play 4,3c preflop, then it is a good flop. If the hands were turned over, I suppose it is even a snappier call.
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:19 am Post subject: Re: Is this a terrible call?
Youve got all in 3 way for stacks against 2 players who between them have 10 outs...not the worst spot youll ever be in _________________ never chop wood in a rubber dinghy
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Is this a terrible call?
Paddy1969 wrote:
Sorry did not know how to hide cards on replayer.
Am I always miles behind here? I wish Player 1 had just called the flop bet, then I could have got away on turn.
After playing cash with you for hours on end at the international Paddy this is your worst bluff ever, YOU are never folding here
UL though mate. Keep an eye out for the return of the International Team Event soon. _________________ "There's not enough hippies to save our lives, We need more hippies"
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a terrible call?
stowjon wrote:
Paddy1969 wrote:
Sorry did not know how to hide cards on replayer.
Am I always miles behind here? I wish Player 1 had just called the flop bet, then I could have got away on turn.
After playing cash with you for hours on end at the international Paddy this is your worst bluff ever, YOU are never folding here
UL though mate. Keep an eye out for the return of the International Team Event soon.
Cheers Captain
I have been meaning to plan a HMF meet for a curry/Indian and then possibly poker. I know Bogus and Sprengers were interested. As The Int' is no longer, would you be able to make it to a Saturday Mint or Fox tourney?
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Is this a terrible call?
im down with that mate but ive not got a single Saturday free untill NOVEMBER!!! _________________ "There's not enough hippies to save our lives, We need more hippies"
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