Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Last Night £50 GPS sat
Given structure I am ok with any of these.
1. 3x raise as you did and (sigh) call off the 15BB shove.
2. 2.1x raise and fold to 15BB shove
3. Open fold.
My preference on the bubble would be option 2 and then 3. I just don't see it's worth the risk of flipping at best and being crippled if I lose and likely to bubble out. _________________ "Brandon Uhl @BrandonUhl
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Last Night £50 GPS sat
I'm happy to fold pre here. With 4 handed, any Ax shove after your 3x raise is profitable, and if you call, you are flipping at best. And I think here you can wait for a better hand.
It comes down to play styles, of course. After your initial raise, you HAVE to call any all in, it's what your initial raise was for. As KB pointed out, you can play here with smaller initial raises and fold to an over shove.
(I hope to have this right, but it's a satellite) In this case, 1st is equivalent to 3rd, there is no incentive to win this tournament, just be in top three. You have 2nd largest stack (and they are all pretty closes anyway), and shouldn't be thinking about risking your life with pocket 3s, you can definitely fold and let someone else take the risk. Definitely if you've cashed and it's last 4 on FT, start making moves with 33, the flip is worth it, but if all that matters is cashing, then fold fold fold.
Maybe I'm thinking about this wrongly, but if I was in this situation, I'm folding everyday.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Last Night £50 GPS sat
Did it make 2 or 3 seats? I think regardless, this is a raise/fold situation, you are 2nd at the start of the hand and raise/folding still keeps you comfortably in the tourney. Flipping for a seat, which you are doing at best(worse as it turns out), is not optimal after you have done the hard work to get yourself in this position.
Ideally, you want 2 of the remaining 3 players to clash, maintain your stack by standard raising when it folds to you or UTG as I think you have enough chips to raise/fold with the right betsize. _________________ 'Impatience for victory only guarantees defeat' - Louis XIV
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