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peter j s
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:26 am
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Playing at a well known casino last Tuesday in an £80 Freezout the following took place.
All pass to Button who raises,
Small Blind folds and in doing so one of his cards flips over face up and touches the Big Blinds cards which were well behind the line,
The Button raiser immediately calls for the Big Blinds hand to be declared dead.
The Button raiser was awarded the pot Is that fair ??

PS I Was not sat at table merely an observer
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Poker Jon
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:37 am
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Nah thats BS.

If BB cards are easily identifiable (which they should be as the SB card is face up!) then play should continue, the action remains and it is upto BB.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:52 am
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Total angle shoot from the button... pathetic, really.

Was this decision contested, or just let to stand?
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peter j s
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:42 am
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The Floor was called and he upheld dealers decision!!
Big Blind acted the comp;lete Gentleman and accepted it and went on to finish 5th.
Unfortuneately the "Angle Shooter" finished higher
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:49 am
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Disgusting.

Care to mention which 'well known casino' this was at? If this is a decision upheld by the TD, they shouldn't have a problem with it being aired Angel
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peter j s
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:36 pm
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The VIC
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:37 pm
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peter j s wrote:
The VIC



REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:08 pm
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Totally unacceptable ruling imo
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Freddy Flares
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:20 pm
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Happened to a mate of mine also. Player threw his mucked cards across the table and they touched his cards, another player in the pot said my mates hand was now dead, the ruling was upheld.
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omen666
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:54 pm
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Wish some players knew the rules. To be honest I dont think half of them are angle shoots these days more of a case of people not knowing the rules and using the old if I shout my case loud and long enough then they will agree with me.


See it all the time
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Chris_Austin
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:02 pm
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On Thursday I had a player argue with me about the blinds going up (he was SB and I was BB) because he blinds 'were in' before the buzzer went. The dealer was still picking up the muck from the hand we just played. He begrudgingly put the extra chip in and then went on to say that he was right if it was a cash game.



I still don't know if he was joking or meant 'side game' when he said cash game.
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fatshaft
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:24 pm
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Chris_Austin wrote:
On Thursday I had a player argue with me about the blinds going up (he was SB and I was BB) because he blinds 'were in' before the buzzer went. The dealer was still picking up the muck from the hand we just played. .
In many casinos that would be correct.



Chris_Austin wrote:
I still don't know if he was joking or meant 'side game' when he said cash game.
A side game is a cash game.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:48 pm
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I'd expect the cards to be dealt with no fuss, if the blinds were in before the change... thought that was standard?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:11 pm
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X wrote:
I'd expect the cards to be dealt with no fuss, if the blinds were in before the change... thought that was standard?


standard is that the first riffle of the shuffle denotes the beginning of the new hand.
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DropTheHammer
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:17 am
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Chris_Austin wrote:
On Thursday I had a player argue with me about the blinds going up (he was SB and I was BB) because he blinds 'were in' before the buzzer went. The dealer was still picking up the muck from the hand we just played. He begrudgingly put the extra chip in and then went on to say that he was right if it was a cash game.


Whay are you arguing to increase the blinds? I would gladly try to keep them at the previous level if I am in them!
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