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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject:
I am another who will shoot in the mid 90's consistently and occasionally creep into the 80's on a good day.
Can someone please explain (Other than a sand wedge) what a wedge would add to my game??
Currently i will either open the face on my pitching wedge or choke down on a 3 or 7 iron with a putting stroke looking for a little bump and run, am i really missing that much??? _________________ If i want a monkey i get a monkey!
Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 5035 Location: Essex, Uk
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject:
hackett wrote:
I am another who will shoot in the mid 90's consistently and occasionally creep into the 80's on a good day.
Can someone please explain (Other than a sand wedge) what a wedge would add to my game??
Currently i will either open the face on my pitching wedge or choke down on a 3 or 7 iron with a putting stroke looking for a little bump and run, am i really missing that much???
OK, I shall go with this one:
A wedge adds a different dimension to your game, it can actually help you envisage your shots and your path around the course accordingly.
Opening the face on your pitching wedge is all well and good, but do you 100% commit to the shot which you're aiming for.
A scenario- You're 45 yards from the pin, there's no obstacles in your way apart from a valley in front of the green, leave it short and you face a tricky shot. Over the back of the green is a lake, so you need to be accurate.
Now- put that into your memory bank, and visualise it as you draw the pitching wedge back to take your shot. Knees slightly bent, wrists locked, you want to land it on the green, concentrate on the ball, don't look up and strike the ball now.
The majority of time using this technique sees you land perfectly on the green.
So, the amateur player won't look at all this, he'll treat his PW as a foreign object, quick look at the pitfalls facing him, and usually top the ball sending it skidding into the valley, or catch a flyer sending it into the lake.
You can start to see now, the tools in your hand are a small fraction of the bigger picture.
A lob wedge can eliminate part of this, in getting you an accurate base from where to work from, but it won't catapult over the thoughts in your head as you hit the ball.
The amateur or weekend hacker really should try some mind control techniques, rather than going for fancy clubs, this would massively improve the scores of the majority, but- human nature is of course lazy, why go through the hassle when you believe shelling out a Monkey on a new set of clubs will do it for you? _________________ "Anyone for Jazz?"~ 2 Sticks
I am another who will shoot in the mid 90's consistently and occasionally creep into the 80's on a good day.
Can someone please explain (Other than a sand wedge) what a wedge would add to my game??
Currently i will either open the face on my pitching wedge or choke down on a 3 or 7 iron with a putting stroke looking for a little bump and run, am i really missing that much???
Careful what you say, unless you're shooting under par expect to get shot down on here
I think Reggie has explained what a lob wedge would do, I'm very keen to get one and try all this now
Now, Reggie may correct me here but I'm going to guess what sets golfers like me/Hackett apart from Reg...
1) Distance - I only play a 5 wood off the tees, the driver stays at home because I'm not good enough
2) Fluffed shots with irons, even when on the fairway
3) Bad club selection/bad course management
4) 3 putting - even if this happens ONCE a round its once too many
These are the things I'm working on at the mo anyway _________________ p.s you are just jelly that a dramabomb happened on here and you wasn't involved.
Mate you're killing yourself not using a driver,just practice,practice,practice with it.
I was the same when I was younger,got easily discouraged and was hitting irons off the tees,my old man(who is class) kept going on and on at me to just work with the driver.
It makes an unreal difference,even if you can just about get by with it,to be giving yourself a few genuine chances of birdies instead of scrambling for a par every hole.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject:
sundance wrote:
hackett wrote:
I am another who will shoot in the mid 90's consistently and occasionally creep into the 80's on a good day.
Can someone please explain (Other than a sand wedge) what a wedge would add to my game??
Currently i will either open the face on my pitching wedge or choke down on a 3 or 7 iron with a putting stroke looking for a little bump and run, am i really missing that much???
Careful what you say, unless you're shooting under par expect to get shot down on here
I think Reggie has explained what a lob wedge would do, I'm very keen to get one and try all this now
Now, Reggie may correct me here but I'm going to guess what sets golfers like me/Hackett apart from Reg...
1) Distance - I only play a 5 wood off the tees, the driver stays at home because I'm not good enough
2) Fluffed shots with irons, even when on the fairway
3) Bad club selection/bad course management
4) 3 putting - even if this happens ONCE a round its once too many
These are the things I'm working on at the mo anyway
1. 95% of the time i have a 3 wood in my hand. Driver just spazes out on me.
2. Actually not too bad but probably 1 or 2 still there in a round
3. Yep
4. Putting is a saving grace for me.
My other big problem (to add to the others) is my lack of distance generally. I will sacrifice distance for control, so sometimes i just don't commit fully to shots. This is probably more psychological but still costs me a few shots a round. _________________ If i want a monkey i get a monkey!
Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 5035 Location: Essex, Uk
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject:
Another good tip, which so often I don't see followed:
When you tee up, put the ball on the same size as the 'hazard'
For example, the course I go to in Peterborough, the 1st hole has a wooded area on your right, on your left is an open course, with a dyke which you really shouldn't reach.
So tee up on the right hand side to take the hazard on the right out of play.
I sometimes think it would be good to be videoed and have it put on youtube for all to watch, just to show how you plot and plan your way around a tricky course _________________ "Anyone for Jazz?"~ 2 Sticks
nice round Sundance , when I used to play (donkey's years ago), I was a 19 handicapper, so was never of a standard where I could give anyone any advice (apart from avoid tilt at any cost on the golf course) - I used to play 1-2 times a month at the most, as cricket was my sport in my younger days.
Couple of stories to cheer you up.
I shot a round of 142 in a comp (72 over ). It included what was described as a scene from Tin Cup (where Kevin Costner keeps hitting the water when he was trying to reach the green) my problem was having the lake directly in front of me and I hit 11 balls on the trot into the drink.
My playing partners were pissing themselves laughing and I was on megatilt, I ended up taking 24 I think (this was on the 4th hole).
Hole 6, the head to my brand new driver flew off when I teed off. The head went further down the fairway then my ball. A further 3 hours of swearing took place as I found every bunker, water, tree, deep rough etc
I actually regained a bit of composure near the end and played the last 4 holes in 2 over.
Then the following week, we were playing in the pairs comp and on the first 17 holes, I picked up my ball before we reached the green. My partner kept us in it, so coming down the last we were level. I finally hit a straight drive and was about 150 yrs from the green. I then pitched stone dead about 6" from the cup, for a lovely birdie and we won. Obviously I took all the credit in the clubhouse Will never forget the faces of the 2 were beat.
The following year (1997), I played my last round of golf. My knee gave way as I was taking the 5 wood from the fairway - dislocated left knee as well as a split to the knee cap, paramedics couldn't get down to me (bottom section of the course), so I was airlifted by helicopter to the hospital.
Mate you're killing yourself not using a driver,just practice,practice,practice with it.
I was the same when I was younger,got easily discouraged and was hitting irons off the tees,my old man(who is class) kept going on and on at me to just work with the driver.
It makes an unreal difference,even if you can just about get by with it,to be giving yourself a few genuine chances of birdies instead of scrambling for a par every hole.
But distance isn't really my problem, I can hit between 210-230 yards with my 5 wood anyway, having said that I will probably invest in a driver soon...new putter and lob wedge are top priority at the moment though
Hackett - I'm not expert but it sounds like you're probably quite close to being a low handicap, 10/12 maybe? Even if you're turning the longer par 4's into bogeys your game sounds solid enough to improve
Reggie - Would love to see some of your shots on Youtube...maybe put a clip on here first? Just to show us what a decent swing looks like...especially with those old clubs
And tjm8...WOW, just WOW...in one short story I felt your pain...then joy, and they extreme sadness at the end, if you don't mind me asking how old are you?
Truly sad if you can never play golf again, and I'm guessing that given that happened 13 years ago that is the case? _________________ p.s you are just jelly that a dramabomb happened on here and you wasn't involved.
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:41 am Post subject:
ReggieK wrote:
I've been speaking to my old pal Paul, who owns the lob wedge I used.
It's a Callaway x22:
He got it as part of a set, but I see they're around 60 notes to buy individually, a shocking waste of money but if you want one then they are top banana
You're a "4" handicapper, and despite claiming to use hickory clubs, you're actually using the most modern of technology, and a super duffers mega-cavity back wedge at that? I must say I'm gobsmacked. What's wrong with CG15s or Vokeys?
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: Re: *Un-Official THMF golf thread*
sundance wrote:
I had custom clubs made a few years ago, but still the driver at home, my bag is lacking a wedge (bar the obv pitching and sand)
Any advice on what wedge to buy?
Should I go for a 64 degree, or what that be too difficult to use?
Ach bugger it, some serious advice, but this will be my last.
1. Join a golf forum (Golf Magic, ModSquad or Golf Monthly), where you will get proper advice from all levels of golfer
2. Advice from Reggie does not come under 1.
3. No, you should not get a 64° wedge, they are ridiculously hard to hit full out, which means you end up just using them when you've really short sided yourself. (I have one, it's in the shed)
We just had a short game clinic with Andrew Murray at our club, he said there was no need whatsoever to be carrying anything over a 58° in your bag. Amatuers get too hung up on hitting high Mickelson type shots, when they should be punching the ball in most of the time with a much lower flight.
Also (and no disrespect intended) you've just gone round a course that is barely lonegr than pitch and putt in 85 shots and are delighted with it, you need to worry more about your game, than fiddling about with another club. A 64° wedge is not goin to knock 20 shots off your round. New wedge = £50+, you should be able to get 3 lessons for that price, do it.
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). It included what was described as a scene from Tin Cup (where Kevin Costner keeps hitting the water when he was trying to reach the green) my problem was having the lake directly in front of me and I hit 11 balls on the trot into the drink.
