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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:22 am Post subject:
eddshrinker wrote:
Yep, didn't get the chance though. He berated me about doing it for about 15 minutes until I knocked him out.
how much did you stand to lose if you bubbled, what chip stacks did the other players have, how long had you been playing the tourney for? that just 3 questions id like to know before i can judge. _________________ "what you talkin bout willis"
Gary Coleman
Yep, didn't get the chance though. He berated me about doing it for about 15 minutes until I knocked him out.
how much did you stand to lose if you bubbled, what chip stacks did the other players have, how long had you been playing the tourney for? that just 3 questions id like to know before i can judge.
I don't understand; aren't the stacks shown on the hand replayer? It's a $5.50 SNG so that's what I stood to lose if I bubbled, and we'd been playing maybe 90 minutes.
i think the shove is fine. I am interested in why he is slating you when he calls with A10. Sklansky would be annoyed.
He was lucky you had the bottom of your range which is higher than his raise range by the looks of it. He commits himself with any raise. So assuming a smaller ace and all lower pairs i think the A10 makes chips there. _________________ The next best thing to gambling and winning is gambling and losing.
i think the shove is fine. I am interested in why he is slating you when he calls with A10. Sklansky would be annoyed.
He was lucky you had the bottom of your range which is higher than his raise range by the looks of it. He commits himself with any raise. So assuming a smaller ace and all lower pairs i think the A10 makes chips there.
If you take villains 20/10 stats at face value his raising range is 77+, A9s+, ATo+, KQs, KQo - AdTd is a 6/4 dog to that range.
i think the shove is fine. I am interested in why he is slating you when he calls with A10. Sklansky would be annoyed.
He was lucky you had the bottom of your range which is higher than his raise range by the looks of it. He commits himself with any raise. So assuming a smaller ace and all lower pairs i think the A10 makes chips there.
If you take villains 20/10 stats at face value his raising range is 77+, A9s+, ATo+, KQs, KQo - AdTd is a 6/4 dog to that range.
Final table, 8 handed, unopened pot in MP i think that 10% PFR will be more like 15% to include any pair and mabye KJs K10s, although i don't know why villain is not shoving with 11bbs because i guess he is commited if he gets shoved on.(If he is raise folding 11bb that is really bad)
So you might be a bit better than 40% equity against villains range but either way there aint much in it and you have to gamble to try and double up with only just over 4bbs yourself because it's likely you won't get better than A10s before the bb gets to you again.
True, those stats weren't from a great many hands though, the blinds had recently gone up and I didn't imagine I'd get a better hand to shove with. Thanks for the replies!
I'm folding this with 7 paid out of 8 left.You've got no fold equity so this is effectively a call and you're likely to be no better than 55%-odd against villain's range.
i must admit i did not see the 20/10 but 8 handed assuming any range adjustment or limited amount of hands to get to 20/10 it is probably i think the shove is ok from an equity point.
Evelyn is right you dont have fold equity against a good opponent i dont think that is necessarily true of a person at this level playing 20/10. _________________ The next best thing to gambling and winning is gambling and losing.
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