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The Dean Straight Flush

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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| DCSW7 wrote: | | if it was staged, someone forgot to tell the german authorities... |
I really can't see them involving the German authorities in this can you. What are they going to say to them....... "Excuse me but we would like to make a lot of money in the future by promoting a fight firstly by having a "brawl" that really isn't a brawl at all and people making threats that are not really threats at all but would you mind us wasting police time and help us with our promotions by getting a few of your guys to play along with it"
Pretty obvious that nothing would come of it by way of actions from the Germans who will likely just warn them about their future conduct in their country. To sell something then you have to inject realism even if it means actual punches being thrown. _________________ Poker columnist at www.poker.co.uk |
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stowjon Royal Flush

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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British boxing became world wide joke last night
haye and chisora what a cpl of douchebags!
kid Galahad boxed like a lemon.
Chris eubank jr could have demolished his opponent in 3 rounds but chose to lemon about for the whole 6 rounds and then told the press "i did what i had to do, i came i boxed, i won" yes this is true but the look on Chris Eubank snr's face when he said 2i boxed2 was priceless, TBF to JR he used the fight to get 6 rounds on his stats and not a knock out.
i was not a fan of british boxing last night after watching but can see the logic in Eubank Jr but the others are cock jockeys! _________________ "There's not enough hippies to save our lives, We need more hippies" |
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tjm8 Quads

Joined: 09 Apr 2010 Posts: 2467 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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Re. Tyson Fury, if he could get his head sorted out, then he could defo challenge either of the 2 ukrainian robots.
He didnt duck David Price either, it is his promotor who didnt want the fight, tbh Price would knock him clean out imo if they fought tomorrow, but Fury could be up there with the best if he trains properly. |
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penko910 Full House

Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 1196
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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| tjm8 wrote: | Re. Tyson Fury, if he could get his head sorted out, then he could defo challenge either of the 2 ukrainian robots.
He didnt duck David Price either, it is his promotor who didnt want the fight, tbh Price would knock him clean out imo if they fought tomorrow, but Fury could be up there with the best if he trains properly. |
Tjm8, I love you loads but how can you claim Fury didn't duck Price. He vacated his titles rather than face him, his excuse was he wanted bigger fights, now hes fighting a bum in Rogan. I'll happily take abet with anyone that Prce will be a world champ before Fury or Chisora |
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Seb Full House
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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If I was 6'9" and a professional heavyweight boxer I wouldn't have a body with the muscle tone of my actual body I CAN TELL YOU THAT. He could go toe to toe with a Klitschko if he put the hours in*. Even David Haye basically had no chance because of his lack of reach.
Penko, Fury always wanted to fight Rogan, it's an Irish pride thing (has anyone told him he's not Irish?).
* and got someone to teach him technique. |
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penko910 Full House

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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| Apologies Tj, only just read your post properly and noticed you said it was Mick Hennesey who ducked Price, and not Fury. Fair point I suppose, just think Fury comes out of it looking daft, especially with who he is now lined up to fight. |
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tjm8 Quads

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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no worries Penko
There is a guy I play poker with who knows Tyson and he says that if anything Tyson is over confident and thinks he can take out anybody, but maybe because of this he doesnt train as hard as what the experts think and also he is getting bad advice, you named the guy.
It is pretty clear his body tone is not as good as it could be and that he throws too many arm punches = he does not get full power, as if he used his body properly, but because he is strong as an ox, he gets away with it at domestic level.
IMO Mick ducked the Price fight because he thinks Tyson doesnt take Price seriously and would risk getting beat, but dont rule Tyson out of surprising us if he does get a world title shot, his high confidence and a proper training camp could suceed. |
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SirDan Trips
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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Obviously Hennessey doesnt want Fury to fight Price because he knows Price knocks him out. Even at domestic level Fury has proved he has no chin and he doesnt hit hard enough to challenge at world level, as someone mentioned because he doesnt punch properly.
As for the Haye / Chisora debacle being a set up to hype a future fight, no chance in my opinion as the fight wouldnt generate anywhere near enough money for Haye to bother with. Im sure that after watching Vitali v Chisora ,Haye has convinced himself that as he is faster and punches harder than Chisora he is the man to dethrone Vitali, what I believe he is forgetting though is he is more vulnerable to Vitali's power than Chisora was, so could get knocked out. |
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The Dean Straight Flush

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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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Having just seen the footage of the Haye - Chisora clash for the first time......even more convinced now that it was staged......blatant acting in my book.
Stand by what I said in that both fighters know that there is nowhere else for them to go at the moment except an all British fight......look for the motive first and the rest stands out like a sore thumb _________________ Poker columnist at www.poker.co.uk |
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Seb Full House
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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| I think Haye would see a fight with Chisora as beneath him. He came out of retirement to face Vitali. Maybe he'd have to fight an actual contender first. |
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The Dean Straight Flush

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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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| Seb wrote: | | I think Haye would see a fight with Chisora as beneath him. He came out of retirement to face Vitali. Maybe he'd have to fight an actual contender first. |
It more than likely might be beneath him......all the way until he realised that it may be a massive earner and there was enough public interest in the fight......this is what it is all about because if they cannot sell the fight then it is a non starter especially as neither of them has a belt. It can only be sold based on "Battle of Britain Hate Match" or something to that effect.
Probably wouldn't gross anywhere near as much as the Klitchko fights as it would be difficult to sell the fight to a non British public without titles at stake. I just find it strange why Adam Booth was there and if David Haye is retired then why is he getting so hot under the collar at someone elses press conference?????
With PPV figures falling then it will really take something to sell Chisora vs Haye _________________ Poker columnist at www.poker.co.uk |
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SirDan Trips
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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Booth was there with Haye because Haye wants to fight Vitali. I really cant see Haye bothering to fight anyone else other than Vitali, unless hes offered mega bucks but that certainly isnt what he'd get against Chisora, titles and big money are all that interest Haye and Chisora would bring neither to the table.
As for PPV falling , its gone in boxing (this side of the atlantic anyway) the plug was pulled on Sky Box Office boxing after the Haye v Harrison debacle, Haye v Chisora would be just as farcical imo.
I think Sky thought they could just cherry pick whichever fights they want without risking making a loss on some dodgy PPV cards, that was until boxnation came along to rattle a few cages and raise the bar. Take tonight for example, Boxnation have Cleverley v Karpency and Huck v Povetkin and Sky have decided to put Maidana v Alexander on live at 3am, they would never have done that if a rival like boxnation werent sniffing around. |
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PokerSensation Flush
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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| SirDan wrote: | Booth was there with Haye because Haye wants to fight Vitali. I really cant see Haye bothering to fight anyone else other than Vitali, unless hes offered mega bucks but that certainly isnt what he'd get against Chisora, titles and big money are all that interest Haye and Chisora would bring neither to the table.
As for PPV falling , its gone in boxing (this side of the atlantic anyway) the plug was pulled on Sky Box Office boxing after the Haye v Harrison debacle, Haye v Chisora would be just as farcical imo.
I think Sky thought they could just cherry pick whichever fights they want without risking making a loss on some dodgy PPV cards, that was until boxnation came along to rattle a few cages and raise the bar. Take tonight for example, Boxnation have Cleverley v Karpency and Huck v Povetkin and Sky have decided to put Maidana v Alexander on live at 3am, they would never have done that if a rival like boxnation werent sniffing around. |
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DCSW7 Straight Flush

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/2502201...haye-chisora.html
| Quote: | After having thrown a camera tripod as tempers flared, the film footage shows Haye walking away before approaching a smiling Klitschko and shaking him by the hand.
Klitschko, who appears amused by what has transpired in front of him, is also seen to applaud as Haye moves over to him.
The Ukrainian had previously said he was "disgusted" by the events that transpired in Munich |
_________________ Not surprised Xavi's been replaced. His pass completion rate was only 89%. Useless. |
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SirDan Trips
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Klitschko v Chisora |
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| The Dean wrote: | Having just seen the footage of the Haye - Chisora clash for the first time......even more convinced now that it was staged......blatant acting in my book.
Stand by what I said in that both fighters know that there is nowhere else for them to go at the moment except an all British fight......look for the motive first and the rest stands out like a sore thumb |
Seems your theory couldnt have been further from the truth, as the BBBC have suspended Chisora's licence indefinetly.
At the end of the day he had it coming as he has been up before the boxing authorities at least once a year for the last 3 or 4 years for his misdemeanours, including beating up a woman, very noble of a professional heavyweight boxer.
I expect he'll appeal and try to defend the indefensible. |
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