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Daniel
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:48 pm
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Relaxed home game, sng style tournament, what do you tend to do when the dealer flips a players card over by mistake while dealing the hole cards?

In the home game I currently play in, there are quite a few new players, who are particularly inexperienced with dealing. So I am looking for a consistant rule, that doesn't slow the game up too much.

I can't actually remember what used to happen when I saw this in a casino. I have played in lots of home games, and it Always differs. Some like to let the player opt to keep the card, (usually if its an ace!), but I don't like this as it doesn't seem consistent. If it happens early, ie before everyone gets even one card, I tend to just gather up the dealt cards, re-shuffle and go again. If it happens on like the last card, and the dealer is a bit slow, I tend to suggest that the turned card is the first burn card. (But then everyone knows what that card cannot come on board or be in someone's hand, so not ideal. I could have it go back into the stub, and be re-shuffled so it could come on the board, but that actually seems worse. So other than slapping the dealer, any suggestions? What usually happens?

What do you guys usually play your home games on? I used to have a decent hexagonal type folding table, it was really usefull for taking to other folks houses etc. But I don't have that now. I currently have a good cloth that goes on top of the table. Looks ok, and plays well, but just looking to go up another step, without actually getting a full table. Does anyone have any pics or can recommend a good folding table top only, that they use? So something that I can put on top of the normal dinning table I have just now?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:18 pm
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we normally just collect the cards up shuffle and re-deal.

RE table cover: If the cloth is working and is in good nick why change it!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:33 pm
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At our boys night on Tuesdays we use it as the 1st burn card.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:45 pm
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We used to say you get the opportunity to keep it, but only if you haven't peeked at the other one! Keeps the game flowing and spices things up. Plus it's fairer if it's a high card Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:05 pm
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DropTheHammer wrote:
We used to say you get the opportunity to keep it, but only if you haven't peeked at the other one! Keeps the game flowing and spices things up. Plus it's fairer if it's a high card Smile


This is also what we do.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:33 pm
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neilcaterham wrote:
At our boys night on Tuesdays we use it as the 1st burn card.


This If it's sng, if cash we redeal.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:27 am
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The proper rule is the best/quickest/consistent.

Leave the flipped card where it is and finish the deal, then replace the flipped card with the burn card.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:22 am
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We follow the rule mentioned by drop the hammer, option to keep if they have not already looked at their other card if discarded then carry on with the deal i.e. to next player and give the unlucky player the card which would have been the burn card.

Keeps the game going.

Still possible to win even with someone knowing one of your cards although does help if it is an ACE and they suspect your other card is also an Ace.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:39 pm
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It's hard to argue not keeping it when it happens to the first card, whereas with the second card you might know if it helps the one you've already got. Especially when you're dealt an ace or king or your favourite as the first card. I assume it just stems from the rule of not playing with part of or the whole of your hand showing but you can debate how much of a rule that is too.

In all the games i've run, i've not allowed anyone to keep a card that is flipped over during dealing and it's never been an issue and is soon forgotten about. Like Alex B says, it's simple and quick to resolve.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:21 pm
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we always use as first burn. also there is some decent 8/9 seat tables on ebay, we have been going nearly 3yr now in pub game (tho now numbers have dropped massively) and always buy from same supplier around 40.. we also got a very good second hand table for 20 just by looking around on ebay.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:51 am
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If you can put another layer under your cloth, that would make a big difference. Not something so much that you can't stack chips but just to give it a bit of spring so that cards and chips are way more easy to pick up.

A fleece blanket underneath should do the trick.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:34 pm
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We tend to just use it as the first burn card. For a while we had a couple of complete retards (in dealing terms) playing and this would literally happen everytime one of them was dealing so to counter this and get them to be less careless we introduced a rule where the dealer was charged the equivalent of a BB if a card was carelessly exposed while dealing.
Low and behold neither have done it since.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:55 pm
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Our rule is also simple, if a card is exposed it becomes the first burn card no arguments that is it.
If a second card is exposed then the hand is re-dealt, and fun is had at the dealers expense Smile
As long as you have a rule there is never a problem I find.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:47 pm
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In our pub, it is used as the first burn card as well - but someone usually groans when it is an ace.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:52 pm
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Alex B wrote:
The proper rule is the best/quickest/consistent.

Leave the flipped card where it is and finish the deal, then replace the flipped card with the burn card.


IIRC the most common rule, which seems sensible, is to do this if dealing the second card, but if it's the first round of cards dealt you just gather the cards in redeal.
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