You are the Tournament Director: Flop, Turn and River
Situation: three players contest a pot pre flop. Player A bets, player B calls and before player C can act the dealer deals the first card of the flop. How do you rule?
Three players contest a pot on the flop. Player A bets, player B calls and before player C can act the dealer exposes the turn card. How do you rule?
Three players contest a pot on the turn. Player A bets, player B calls and before player C can act the dealer exposes the river card. How do you rule?
JB: OK Matt we’re going to have to do that one again.
MS: What’s confusing me here is there are 3 different things but its...
JB: OK let’s do the first one first. So Player A bets, Player B calls, Player C is thinking, the dealer burns and exposes the first card on the flop
MS: Oh the first card on the flop.
MS: OK. So they’re all going to go back in.
JB: So they all go back in, including the burn card?
MS: No, the burn card stays out.
JB: Ok, they get shuffled, cut and then there’s no burn and then you deal the flop?
JB: Ok in the second example we’ve got the flop but the dealer burns and puts out the burn card and deals the turn card too quickly.
MS: Ok so then you would burn and put out the river card, shuffle the cards back in, no burn and then deliver the river.
JB: OK, so would you put the river face down on one side? Does the river become the turn?
MS: Yes, the river becomes the turn.
JB: OK and then you will re-shuffle but not the burn cards and not the discards…
JB: For the river?
JB: And now the dealer deals the river card too early.
MS: OK, the burn card stays out, you re-shuffle and no burn and turn…
JB: OK, so you re-shuffle the stud?
MS: Actually on No.1….
JB: This is no. 1
MS: Yes, its saying that you know… nobody has seen the second two cards well in my opinion those cards have got to come back just in case anybody has seen them and you know no one can make that determination.
JB: But he’s only taken the first card off the deck for the flop - the first card for the flop
MS: You see you guys deal differently over there.
JB: Oh I see. OK. Good thinking, good thinking…Some one might of seen them. You’re right.
MS: So that’s actually a good one because I probably….. in Europe I would allow the next two cards to come up, in the United States it’s all three cards come off at the same time I would bring them all in.
The Mob Vedict
We have left the dialogue in between Joe and Matt to demonstrate how a simple situation can be confusing because of different procedures in America and Europe. The way that the flop is usually dealt in the UK is one card at a time whereas in the USA they take all three off and spread them at the same time.
It’s not just rules - it’s procedures that should be standardised and this is a very good example of just why.
The bad news is that we are coming to the end of this set of Tournament Director articles. We’ll have one more featuring these six but it’s a bit special. Matt will tell us his most difficult decision ever made as a TD; Jack will tell us about a rule that he’d like to introduce and Marty, well he’s got something to say as well.
The good news is that then we have a whole new set of scenarios. Many have been sent in by you, our readers, or posted on the Mob Forum. Some of the TDs remain the same but we also have some great new opinions from around the world.
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