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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:13 pm
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Nem wrote:
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Monkey pluralised is monkeys.


Hey hey it's the monkies.


Nice ninja edit.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:52 pm
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i will not disagree with you anymore as you do not recognise other opinions and offend easily


Theres a good lad



Good one.

Game Set and Match I think.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:40 pm
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This thread is way to long to go through

is stowjon a 'rascilist rascist' or what? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:01 pm
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uh-hu wrote:
This thread is way to long to go through

is stowjon a 'rascilist rascist' or what? Mr. Green


I think Stowjons argument is that people in a position to discrimate (eg. landlords) should be able to do so with impunity. Race is not the issue; the reason for the discrimination is unimportant. He just thinks it should be allowed, because it is a 'personal choice' or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:20 pm
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paddymick wrote:
uh-hu wrote:
This thread is way to long to go through

is stowjon a 'rascilist rascist' or what? Mr. Green


I think Stowjons argument is that people in a position to discrimate (eg. landlords) should be able to do so with impunity. Race is not the issue; the reason for the discrimination is unimportant. He just thinks it should be allowed, because it is a 'personal choice' or something.


He ain't racist. He just wants to make choices. Which is his right to do if he can project it without upsetting blacks and Asians and Muslims and Scottish people etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:29 pm
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i think we need a 'is stowjon a rascialist rasicisist' poll Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:29 pm
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Bogus wrote:
paddymick wrote:
uh-hu wrote:
This thread is way to long to go through

is stowjon a 'rascilist rascist' or what? Mr. Green


I think Stowjons argument is that people in a position to discrimate (eg. landlords) should be able to do so with impunity. Race is not the issue; the reason for the discrimination is unimportant. He just thinks it should be allowed, because it is a 'personal choice' or something.


He ain't racist. He just wants to make choices. Which is his right to do if he can project it without upsetting blacks and Asians and Muslims and Scottish people etc.


thread takes on a whole new argument Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:51 am
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As a prospective tenant with a choice between similar flats, would you ever make a decision based on say, the surname of the landlord?

This is a much tougher question in which your power to find out better information is limited, there is no legal or observable morale obligation to be unbiased, your personal money and happiness is at risk, and the probable cultural origin of your landlord could help predict some of their behaviour in things like fixing appliances and returning deposits.

It's much more like the situation Caro describes about profitably using stereotypes at the poker table.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:35 pm
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Alex B wrote:
As a prospective tenant with a choice between similar flats, would you ever make a decision based on say, the surname of the landlord?

This is a much tougher question in which your power to find out better information is limited, there is no legal or observable morale obligation to be unbiased, your personal money and happiness is at risk, and the probable cultural origin of your landlord could help predict some of their behaviour in things like fixing appliances and returning deposits.

It's much more like the situation Caro describes about profitably using stereotypes at the poker table.

Popcorn


Your question hinges on the premise that peoples surnames are a direct indicator towards their cultural origin. It also supposes that said cultural origin will have an effect on the landlord's ability to provide adequate services. Can you understand why this is a bit of a daft thing to ask?

There has been a fair amount of misunderstanding in this thread, especially with regards to stowjons 'racist' posts and the thing that gets me the most is that a self confessed racist told the whole forum that he was worried about 'whole areas being taken over by people from other countries who can barely speak English' and hardly anyone bats an eyelid, whilst jon is bashed because he didn't put his point across properly.


Also I am still waiting to hear from the forum racist to explain his question 'are we not all racist in some way? '.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:26 pm
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Also I am still waiting to hear from the forum racist to explain his question 'are we not all racist in some way? '.



I believe i am not Racist in anyway shape or form so to would like to be enlightened by Mddgfc's thoughts[/quote]
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:41 pm
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If I rented a property I would only let it out to British professionals.
IMMIGRATION HAS GOT TO DISCOURAGED so evict the lot and give us our country back


Black british professionals included?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:12 pm
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Rigsby wrote:
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If I rented a property I would only let it out to British professionals.
IMMIGRATION HAS GOT TO DISCOURAGED so evict the lot and give us our country back


Black british professionals included?


British ones, yeah like I said.
Immigration in this country is too high and I would not rent my property anyone non british for this reason. Holiday rentals are different obviously.

FWIW I agree with Stowjon also.

I will go further and say that I have never come across so many non racist people in one place, racism is prevalent in society.

Close our borders and if that makes me racist I don't care, they are my views and no one elses.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:52 pm
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"Racism, also sometimes called racialism, is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that consider the human species to be divided into races with shared traits, abilities, or qualities, such as personality, intellect, morality, or other cultural behavioral characteristics, and especially the belief that races can be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to others, or that members of different races should be treated differently"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Personally, I think you're an idiot if you don't think races differ. I just don't happen to believe anything is inherently valuable, so whether your average Samoan can beat me at Sumo and your average Kenyan can beat me in a 10k (race, not tournament...), doesn't bother me.

By pretty much any definition of racism, you'd have to be intellectually subnormal to technically not be racist. Which is why the most non-racist race is...........

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:45 pm
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Here's a conundrum.

I think we can state as fact that >0% of all people of all races are racist, however you define that. Certainly at least 1 person of any race is going to have less respect/empathy with those of a different race than someone of the same race, nor will more people, in total, of any race have more respect for another race than their own.

I am doing a business deal, I have 2 identical offers from someone of my race, and someone of another race.

I may not believe that any race is worse/better/different from another. Logically (although maybe not morally) I should deal with the person of my own race, as they are more likely to be better business partners, as some percentage of the other race will be "racist" themselves.

Am I racist for choosing the otherwise equal offer from the member of my own race (who may be racist, but not against my/our race) over the offer from the member of the other race, who is just as likely to be racist, and potentially against my own?

Lol linguistaments.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:00 pm
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Hold on a sec



Smalling and townsend are black??
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