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sundance
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:27 am
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Whats it like being a fan of a selling club?

I once saw a list of players that West Ham had to sell to bigger clubs, do you think its pointless having anyone half decent as you know they will just move on anyway?

Arsenal have had to fund a new stadium, but they are a different sort of selling club, they buy players cheap, then when they are good enough to move to bigger clubs, they sell for a profit

The money Wenger has made from selling the likes Reyes, Overmars, Petit, Anelka, Henry, Fabregas, Hleb, Adebayor, Toure, Clichy, Cole, Nasri, etc etc and now Song is fantastic.
They will argue they don't care about winning trophies as they club runs at a profit and they still manage to finish in the top 4, very commendable.

But would the fans rather the decent players stayed? And Arsenal tried to win trophies?
I know Arsenal made it to a Carling Cup final a few years back, and I hope the fans had a good day out, but does it wind them up, knowing that, the minute Wilshere becomes a World Class player he will be sold?

West Ham is different as they have always had a great academy that has sold to bigger clubs and help them win trophies, but the question remains, does it wind their fans up, knowing that if any of their players were any good they would be elsewhere?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:11 am
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i guess it depends if you want to be a real club or a billionaires play thing. after supporting united all my life the ownership by the glazers has, for the first time, as knighton buying us would of done, made me re-think what i love about football and if its worth it. after watching nani get in a strop because a blatant decision against him did not go his way, i could not help but think back to the olympics and the real athletes.

the truth is clubs like city and chelsea are joke clubs. they make no money. they have won a couple of things by the skin of their teeth but these "winnings" are far outweighed by the colossal loses and inability to balance a cheque book. clubs in debt are not far behind.

i have a lot of time for arsenal as they are a good solid manager who finds genuine talent and nurtures it. i dislike clubs that poach these talents and whilst united have a better record of producing people from our youth team i put us firmly with the joke teams like chelsea, and city.
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sundance
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:28 am
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darrensprengers wrote:
i guess it depends if you want to be a real club or a billionaires play thing. after supporting united all my life the ownership by the glazers has, for the first time, as knighton buying us would of done, made me re-think what i love about football and if its worth it. after watching nani get in a strop because a blatant decision against him did not go his way, i could not help but think back to the olympics and the real athletes.

the truth is clubs like city and chelsea are joke clubs. they make no money. they have won a couple of things by the skin of their teeth but these "winnings" are far outweighed by the colossal loses and inability to balance a cheque book. clubs in debt are not far behind.

i have a lot of time for arsenal as they are a good solid manager who finds genuine talent and nurtures it. i dislike clubs that poach these talents and whilst united have a better record of producing people from our youth team i put us firmly with the joke teams like chelsea, and city.


But your fans are real fans, the real heart and soul of football, most of them at least wear green and gold scarves over the latest replica shirt, some even sang "green and gold until we're sold". Respect

So being the plaything for American's doesn't float your boat? I thought someone as astute as yourself in business would see the value of being the talk of Wall Street for 2 minutes?

The truth is, football has been about the money for nearly 20 years now....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:43 am
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You should know, you were a selling club for 92 years!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:21 pm
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The worst thing is being a fan of a team like Blunderland. For the last few years we've been spending like there's no tomorrow, and we still have nothing to show for it!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:14 pm
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darrensprengers wrote:
i guess it depends if you want to be a real club or a billionaires play thing. after LIVING IN GUILDFORD all my life the ownership by the glazers has, for the first time, as knighton buying us would of done, made me re-think what i love about football and if its worth it. after watching nani get in a strop because a blatant decision against him did not go his way, i could not help but think back to the olympics and the real athletes.

the truth is clubs like city and chelsea are joke clubs. they make no money. they have won a couple of things by the skin of their teeth but these "winnings" are far outweighed by the colossal loses and inability to balance a cheque book. clubs in debt are not far behind.

i have a lot of time for arsenal as they are a good solid manager who finds genuine talent and nurtures it. i dislike clubs that poach these talents and whilst united have a better record of poaching other clubs young talent into their youth team i put us firmly with the joke teams like chelsea, and city.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:11 pm
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Brodders wrote:
darrensprengers wrote:
i guess it depends if you want to be a real club or a billionaires play thing. after LIVING IN GUILDFORD all my life the ownership by the glazers has, for the first time, as knighton buying us would of done, made me re-think what i love about football and if its worth it. after watching nani get in a strop because a blatant decision against him did not go his way, i could not help but think back to the olympics and the real athletes.

the truth is clubs like city and chelsea are joke clubs. they make no money. they have won a couple of things by the skin of their teeth but these "winnings" are far outweighed by the colossal loses and inability to balance a cheque book. clubs in debt are not far behind.

i have a lot of time for arsenal as they are a good solid manager who finds genuine talent and nurtures it. i dislike clubs that poach these talents and whilst united have a better record of poaching other clubs young talent into their youth team i put us firmly with the joke teams like chelsea, and city.


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Sprengers is from Cambridge no?!

[x] In before "bought a green and gold scarf" Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:13 pm
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sundance wrote:
Brodders wrote:
darrensprengers wrote:
i guess it depends if you want to be a real club or a billionaires play thing. after LIVING IN GUILDFORD all my life the ownership by the glazers has, for the first time, as knighton buying us would of done, made me re-think what i love about football and if its worth it. after watching nani get in a strop because a blatant decision against him did not go his way, i could not help but think back to the olympics and the real athletes.

the truth is clubs like city and chelsea are joke clubs. they make no money. they have won a couple of things by the skin of their teeth but these "winnings" are far outweighed by the colossal loses and inability to balance a cheque book. clubs in debt are not far behind.

i have a lot of time for arsenal as they are a good solid manager who finds genuine talent and nurtures it. i dislike clubs that poach these talents and whilst united have a better record of poaching other clubs young talent into their youth team i put us firmly with the joke teams like chelsea, and city.


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Sprengers is from Cambridge no?!

[x] In before "bought a green and gold scarf" Mr. Green


I was just being facetious !
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:23 pm
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I am happy supporting a Billionaires plaything, it is better than the last 40 years. Angel
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:51 pm
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What's it like being a fan of a keeping-Fernando-Torres club?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:13 pm
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Brodders wrote:
sundance wrote:
Brodders wrote:
darrensprengers wrote:
i guess it depends if you want to be a real club or a billionaires play thing. after LIVING IN GUILDFORD all my life the ownership by the glazers has, for the first time, as knighton buying us would of done, made me re-think what i love about football and if its worth it. after watching nani get in a strop because a blatant decision against him did not go his way, i could not help but think back to the olympics and the real athletes.

the truth is clubs like city and chelsea are joke clubs. they make no money. they have won a couple of things by the skin of their teeth but these "winnings" are far outweighed by the colossal loses and inability to balance a cheque book. clubs in debt are not far behind.

i have a lot of time for arsenal as they are a good solid manager who finds genuine talent and nurtures it. i dislike clubs that poach these talents and whilst united have a better record of poaching other clubs young talent into their youth team i put us firmly with the joke teams like chelsea, and city.


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Sprengers is from Cambridge no?!

[x] In before "bought a green and gold scarf" Mr. Green


I was just being facetious !


Sprengers is an enigma wrapped in a mystery

Comes from Cambridge, Man U fan, YET cheers on Oxford in the boat race Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:14 pm
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Seb wrote:
What's it like being a fan of a keeping-Fernando-Torres club?


The best!

You just know the goals he was scoring in the FA cup and Champions League were going to mean something come May Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:07 am
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Players who have quit Arsenal over the last seven years have amassed 44 winners' medals between them at 11 different clubs, while those who stayed at the Emirates have empty trophy cabinets.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:37 pm
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sundance wrote:
Seb wrote:
What's it like being a fan of a keeping-Fernando-Torres club?


The best!

You just know the goals he was scoring in the FA cup and Champions League were going to mean something come May Wink


If the Manchester clubs don't race away, it'll be Torres who costs you the league. I wouldn't be too happy about that.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:53 pm
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Seb wrote:
sundance wrote:
Seb wrote:
What's it like being a fan of a keeping-Fernando-Torres club?


The best!

You just know the goals he was scoring in the FA cup and Champions League were going to mean something come May Wink


If the Manchester clubs don't race away, it'll be Torres who costs you the league. I wouldn't be too happy about that.


On what logic are you basing that?

His winning goal last night? Mr. Green
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