Casino ethics on requesting people to tip dealers

[sleepingtom]

I was at a certain casino last night in Austria where I have never been before. Being from the UK I have never tipped dealers and felt like it was a pretty stupid thing to do even if you are allowed like in Vegas for example.

So I was sat playing 2/5 when all of a sudden the card room manager asks to have a quiet word with me alone and he tells me that I should be tipping the dealer every time I win a pot. I say OK then and sit back down. Before this I hadn't even checked the rake but then I see some pots @ 2/5 are having 15 euros taken out of them. So then you want an extra few euros every hand as well? Really?

Do you think it is out of line for a card room manager to personally request that I tip the dealer every time I win a pot? I'm pretty sure the dealer complained about me for not doing it, lol.

FWIW I think this is the best casino I have ever played in so I did start tipping 1 - 3 euros if I won a decent hand.

If you tip how much do you give? The dealers are actually rather good and get hands dealt out fast. Everyone is very nice and accommodating towards someone who doesn't speak German as well but I just wondered what people thought about this.

If I would of said to him screw you I'm not tipping what do you think he would of said?

I think I even got slightly addicted to tipping, I let the waitress keep the change on a 3.80 euro beer for 5euros and let the taxi man keep the extra 3 euros from a 10 note. Also tipped the cashier women 2euros for counting my money lol.

[ryanpb]

In cash games I give a decent tip when I pull in a big pot and not when I pull in an average pot. It isn't something that I take in to consideration for win rates I just imagine the pot wasn't as big as it was.

In tournaments I have only tipped once and that was at a private poker club. I was told that I had to do this and they even announced over the Mic how much you tip. Nice place but I never went back as I paid £100ish in tips which I feel I didn't have much of a choice in.

In your case I would have tipped when I felt like it, it's not like the dealers aren't on a decent basic anyway and they wouldn't have asked you to leave as they want your rake
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[Seb]

Unbelievably out of order. I would've thanked him for the information, started tipping the dealer, waited until closing time and followed the card room manager to the car park and kicked him until I was confident he wouldn't walk again. Just shocking.

[StGilmore]

I don't think tipping dealers is stupid. A good dealer performs an invaluable service at the table. The difference a skilled and talented dealer makes at the table versus a merely compentent dealer is plus ev in winnings and enjoyment and deserves reward.

There was tipping at the Fox when I played, if even usually only those 25 cent chips.
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Same as Ryan, I tip when I pull a big pot and thats it.

You should have said " here's a tip for you, pay your dealers better".

[peterH]

Tipping just encourages employers paying low wages. Although no tipping still resulted in low wages when I worked in casinos.

Maybe the big tipping regular will get the benefit of the doubt too, if the dealer is asked or his input on a dispute. Plus theirs the thieving aspect to consider, too.

It should be entirely voluntary, a mandatory tip isn't a tip, its a charge.
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[Jon MW]

[ThechipLeadV]

I've only ever played in Vegas outside of the UK but roughly standard rules for me...

Assuming it's $1/$2 and amounts will vary depending on alcohol consumption.

Steal blinds - No Tip.

Pot up to roughly $20 - $30 - Probably tip one in every two or three times. Just pushing my cards over the line with the dollar used to protect cards still on there.

That said floorman is a douche for calling you over. I would have given him EUR1 and said to split it between himself and the dealer and then walked out.

Pot of between $30 - $75 - dollar or two each time

$75 - 150 - probably two dollars each time.

Large pot or double up - probably about $5 min. If it's a monster then he's getting a decent one.

Realise this is hugely non profitable but I play mostly for lolz now when I go to Vegas and have a good time and like to spread the wealth.

[knifeboy62]

I always tip the same amount for any contested pot, no matter what the size. The only time I have tipped more is if I hit some sort of High hand or BB jackpot.

I like to tip in all sorts of situations, not just poker. Being generous to other people is a good thing and makes life more pleasurable for all concerned.
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[stowjon]

Question to OP: why do you think tipping is a stupid thing to do?

personally i tip. if i pick up 10 BB's from a pot. i tend to tip 1BB the more BB's i pull from a single pot the more i tip. Saturday at the International i think i probably gave Lisa the dealer a total of £50 through the whole night. the biggest tip being £6.50 when i drew in a pot of over £250. I also leave a tip at the cash desk.

I think i only saw 3 people on my cash table tip all night Me, Paddy1969 and the pissed bloke from Pembo thread.

I do not think its RUDE to not tip i think its just a preference. But if your cashing in at the end of the night i think its polite to leave a little something.

The things i dont tip on:
Bad Service
any table game i.e roulette, blackjack
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