Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Carling Cup 2012
i hate defending henry but for it to be a tackle the other person has to be in control of the ball. i think henry was far enough away that there was no danger in real terms or in it being a tackle on weir. that tasted bad in my mouth
Excessive force when challenging for the ball, i.e. doesn't have to be a tackle where a player has possession of the ball, is a red card offence.
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Carling Cup 2012
I agree with Kompany that there is going to be a lot more reds in the PL with all the focus on what is 'excessive force' and what is a red card.
The main focus from last nights game was the Johnson challenge and it can't be long now that we have a referee acting as follows: -
Straight red card for Savic - knee high studs up challenge on Agger for the penalty (got to be dangerous and risking an injury to the opposing player).
Straight red card for Richards - flying thru the air with his foot up and was pretty close to catching Charlie Adam in the head, there is no way Richards can be in control when he is doing his karate kid impression.
Straight red card for Johnson - although he cleanly wins the balls, if the opposing player had been stood a yard closer to the ball he would of been took out by him.
Any sliding tackle is a red card - it is close to impossible not to have your studs showing at some point during the motion and with the pace / power of a sliding tackle, you could be classed as using excessive force.
Note: I wouldn't of given any of them a card, but I played in a different era, so I am totally out of touch with the modern game.
The highlights are going to be on every referee and you just know they are going to err on the sign of caution and red card the offending player (esp. if they play for Wolves).
I think every player needs to have a long think whether they should ever make a sliding tackle again as everyone who has played football knows, if you go half hearted into a challenge, that is when you are more likely to get injured.
The other problem referees have is the added pressure from the fans, I can't remember the actual challenge, but a LFC player did a basic foul after 10 mins and the few City fans in the ground screamed for a red card.
It is going to be a difficult time for officials and players, especially as the PL panel aren't overuling the bad decisions.
Anyway, people should remember this is what red cards are for
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Carling Cup 2012
I thought Ref did well last night to let game flow and kept the card in his pocket, but as usual argument is over consistency and that it is obviously unfair that Kompany gets a ban and Johnson does something far worse and doesn't even get booked.
As a result Kompany misses the Spurs game which could prove to be a big miss.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Carling Cup 2012
liverpool destroyed man city tonight. two goals against the run of play to say the least. bellamy man of the match easily. looked very fit and fast. _________________ The next best thing to gambling and winning is gambling and losing.
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