Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject:
darrensprengers wrote:
no one commenting on the embarrassment tonight?
Wtf has happened to scottish football
What embarrassment, was great viewing, and I'm no lover of the ugly sisters.
I presume though after yesterday's English old firm game, you'll be commenting on that embarrassment?
Proper passionate fitba imo, I presume you're a disciple of Arsehole Wenger's 'ballet football'? (with suitable blind eye when his players are lumping the other team)
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject:
lex wrote:
You have to understand that once you get bored of sectarianism no one in Scotland really cares about Scottish football either. We all have a big team in the EPL.
This is just nonsense, all of it.
Outside of the Weeg, no-one gives a stuff about sectariansim, in fact we're all sick of hearing about that irrelevant drivel. And while yes many fans have a second team in the EPL thanks to being force fed MOTD & SKY from a young age, it is never their 'big' team.
evilmonkey wrote:
How so? What I'm saying is go to someone in the lower leagues, say ross co. v queen of the south, and tell the fans there they don't care about their team, they'll be quite proud to tell you otherwise. The SPL is top heavy with 'fans' who couldn't tell you the starting line-up of their team(what top flight league isn't), but there are plenty real fans below the ugly sisters
What embarrassment, was great viewing, and I'm no lover of the ugly sisters.
I presume though after yesterday's English old firm game, you'll be commenting on that embarrassment?
Proper passionate fitba imo, I presume you're a disciple of Arsehole Wenger's 'ballet football'? (with suitable blind eye when his players are lumping the other team)
A bit of sense at last. The coverage of this so called "Shame Game" in the press is laughable. A couple of red cards both for 2 bookings, a 3rd for dissent after the game and the managers having a bit of finger pointing on the sidelines it's hardly X-rated stuff or have we all gone soft? Can't really defend Bougherra trying to stop the ref showing him the red but the rest is such an over-reaction. The mass hysteria has masked how poor we really were and we seem to be getting worse if yesterday is anything to go by.
I'm also struggling to see what Diouf has done in his time here to warrant the mock outrage and calls for him to be banned from the country and other such ludicrous suggestions. He's been wound up since the first time he set foot on the pitch, fair enough it was to be expected given his previous but he's barely reacted other than the spat with Lennon. I guess he's the new Lafferty for the media _________________ Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
What embarrassment, was great viewing, and I'm no lover of the ugly sisters.
I presume though after yesterday's English old firm game, you'll be commenting on that embarrassment?
Proper passionate fitba imo, I presume you're a disciple of Arsehole Wenger's 'ballet football'? (with suitable blind eye when his players are lumping the other team)
A bit of sense at last. The coverage of this so called "Shame Game" in the press is laughable. A couple of red cards both for 2 bookings, a 3rd for dissent after the game and the managers having a bit of finger pointing on the sidelines it's hardly X-rated stuff or have we all gone soft? Can't really defend Bougherra trying to stop the ref showing him the red but the rest is such an over-reaction. The mass hysteria has masked how poor we really were and we seem to be getting worse if yesterday is anything to go by.
I'm also struggling to see what Diouf has done in his time here to warrant the mock outrage and calls for him to be banned from the country and other such ludicrous suggestions. He's been wound up since the first time he set foot on the pitch, fair enough it was to be expected given his previous but he's barely reacted other than the spat with Lennon. I guess he's the new Lafferty for the media
The show-piece of, ok an admittedly very poor standard, scottish league degenerating into a free for all with 3 red cards and probably should be more. Managing staff having to be split up.
Its not mass hysteria but i think most people go to football to be entertained by a football match not a load of prima-donnas taking it all a bit too seriously in a game about the standard of the championship here.
I think the carragher was embarrassing and so was the raffael one. thats not why i go to watch football. maybe you do. maybe scottish footballl would not be in such a terrible state if they tried to get a bit more skill into the teams. its a different game than wehn souness, hansen, dlaglish could kick people in the air. _________________ The next best thing to gambling and winning is gambling and losing.
The show-piece of, ok an admittedly very poor standard, scottish league degenerating into a free for all with 3 red cards and probably should be more. Managing staff having to be split up.
Its not mass hysteria but i think most people go to football to be entertained by a football match not a load of prima-donnas taking it all a bit too seriously in a game about the standard of the championship here.
I think the carragher was embarrassing and so was the raffael one. thats not why i go to watch football. maybe you do. maybe scottish footballl would not be in such a terrible state if they tried to get a bit more skill into the teams. its a different game than wehn souness, hansen, dlaglish could kick people in the air.
I doubt you'll get anyone disagreeing with you that the standard is poor but my mass hysteria comment was the way it's been reported in the press since. People saying it's the worst game they've witnessed in 40 years and how it's brought shame on the country, it's nonsense. There were no really bad tackles (Bougherra's first yellow could've been a red I guess) and some verbals thrown about. If the Celtc manager is going to swear at and abuse Rangers players then there is going to be a reaction _________________ Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
The show-piece of, ok an admittedly very poor standard, scottish league degenerating into a free for all with 3 red cards and probably should be more. Managing staff having to be split up.
Its not mass hysteria but i think most people go to football to be entertained by a football match not a load of prima-donnas taking it all a bit too seriously in a game about the standard of the championship here.
I think the carragher was embarrassing and so was the raffael one. thats not why i go to watch football. maybe you do. maybe scottish footballl would not be in such a terrible state if they tried to get a bit more skill into the teams. its a different game than wehn souness, hansen, dlaglish could kick people in the air.
I doubt you'll get anyone disagreeing with you that the standard is poor but my mass hysteria comment was the way it's been reported in the press since. People saying it's the worst game they've witnessed in 40 years and how it's brought shame on the country, it's nonsense. There were no really bad tackles (Bougherra's first yellow could've been a red I guess) and some verbals thrown about. If the Celtc manager is going to swear at and abuse Rangers players then there is going to be a reaction
i dont really read papers but i can imagine the fallout would be a pretty awful over reaction to what is, obviously a mans game at the end of the day,
I mean embarrassing in the shambolic nature of the game and how poor it was considering the great players produced by scotland over the years. I have no clue or interest really in tabloid sensationalist shite.
Firm but fair bite to a derby are what all football fans like but there has to be consistency and fairness. there is a massive difference between a fair firm challenge and shitty two footed one. _________________ The next best thing to gambling and winning is gambling and losing.
overreaction is what the media does these days, those 24 hour hour news channels, websites, blogs and podcasts aren't going to fill themselves with content you know.
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject:
Checkov wrote:
Force fed Sky & MOTD? Just admit you watch English football because it's a better product.
Unlike in England, we grew up with our highlights programmes showing a Scottish game and an English game. So yes we were force fed.
Nowadays if you want to watch football, then you are rammed with the EPL, from live games Saturday lunchtime, Soccer Saturday, a 5.30pm game, then Game of the Day, MOTD, Sunday Supplement, Goals on Sunday, the 1.30 kick off and 4.00pm kick offs, and then MOTD2.
Contrast the SPL, one game on SKY Saturday noon, one game on ESPN Sunday noon, that's if we're lucky.
Aye, nae being force fed at all eh?
And no I don't watch it because it's a better product, I rarely watch it, I used to go to the Reebok, or watch Bolton in my local pub, but now I'm back in Scotland, I only watch if the trotters are on SKY, otherwise I generally give it a miss unless I am sat in the house doing **** all.
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:34 am Post subject:
Grumbledook wrote:
pretty sure paying for sky and watching english football isn't something compulsory
if you don't you have to go out of your way to watch it
Exactly, which is why I stopped paying for Sky sports when they dropped the SPL.
Think you missed the point though, Checkov seems to think we would watch becasue it's a better product. Bit rich telling that to a Dons fan who grew up in the 80s, I was going to Pittodrie and watching the best team in Europe, we still got English fitba rammed down our throats on the weekend highlights progs though.
And nowadays if you want to watch fitba, and I'm sure most people outside of the glory hunters dinna mind watching any fitba, then you end up sitting through a lot of shite EPL games.
As you say, we have a choice, and my choice is that I've barely watched a Champions League game in half a dozen years, and seen a handful of English games outwith those containing Bolton in the last few years too.
So again, we don't all have a 'big' English team as previously stated, nor do we watch the EPL becasue it's a better product. Put a Dons game up against Real v Barca, and I'll be watching the Dons every time. And I think the 'big' team comment is from the mouth of someone brought up in Glasgowshire, where sadly all the 'wee' teams are afflicted by supporters who 'support' Hamilton, Morton, St Mirren, Clyde, Airdrie etc, but their 'big team' is the Huns or the Tims. They have a hard time understanding the rest of us do not have the slightest allegiance to a Glasgow bigot.
Think you missed the point though, Checkov seems to think we would watch becasue it's a better product. Bit rich telling that to a Dons fan who grew up in the 80s, I was going to Pittodrie and watching the best team in Europe, we still got English fitba rammed down our throats on the weekend highlights progs though.
Force fed Sky & MOTD? Just admit you watch English football because it's a better product.
It's a better product than 90% of the drivel that's on tv, hence if it's on I'll watch it, but if a better product is the attraction then the Spanish and Italian games win hands down everytime. That said, on a similar note to fatshaft, i have a choice between Elgin v Annan (or any two lower league teams in Scotland or England) or a milan derby i'll watch the former, don't know what the reason is I just don't have an interest in european football.
IMO, the beeb are most of the problem, even on BBC Scotland MOTD is on twice every weekend and football focus is heavily tilted toward EPL/EFL, but the slot for SPL highlights seems to change from week to week and the only time we get a Saturday night slot is cup weekend. Sky are just running a business in a profitable way by offering the product that will sell the highest volume which is to be expected, but the BBC is meant to be tailored by region to suit the people it's broadcasting to.
STV are quite amusing by contrast, games such as ManU v Crawley which would have got plenty viewers aren't shown, instead replaced by some 2nd rate PG film that went straight to dvd
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:22 am Post subject:
Nem wrote:
fatshaft wrote:
Think you missed the point though, Checkov seems to think we would watch becasue it's a better product. Bit rich telling that to a Dons fan who grew up in the 80s, I was going to Pittodrie and watching the best team in Europe, we still got English fitba rammed down our throats on the weekend highlights progs though.
Not mad at all, Aberdeen were a fabulous team to watch, and just fyi, voted best team in Europe in 1983. So official like
And I think the 'big' team comment is from the mouth of someone brought up in Glasgowshire, where sadly all the 'wee' teams are afflicted by supporters who 'support' Hamilton, Morton, St Mirren, Clyde, Airdrie etc, but their 'big team' is the Huns or the Tims. They have a hard time understanding the rest of us do not have the slightest allegiance to a Glasgow bigot.
The irony given this term was ruled in court to be sectarian _________________ Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
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