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Hi

Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game is??

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:53 pm
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Hi,

Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and discard 2 at the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part is the wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the lowestcard in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example if you had:

2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild for the high. I hope this makes some sense to you.

--Previous Message--

: Hi
:
: Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game is??
:
: Thanks
:
: redsimon
ariston
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:37 am
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saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to omaha. the only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn over the card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you choose which card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round, this allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7 cards. you may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last card eg..a a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible to be showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow) may not look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i know it sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game and great at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we will give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of a pot.Smile

--Previous Message--

: Hi,
:
: Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and discard 2 at
: the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part is the
: wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the lowestcard
: in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example if you
: had:
:
: 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your
: highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild for the
: high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: : Hi
: :
: : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game is??
: :
: : Thanks
: :
: : redsimon
redsimon
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:22 am
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As much as 1/8th! I'm booking the hotel now.. Surprised)

--Previous Message--

: saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to omaha. the
: only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn over the
: card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you choose which
: card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round, this
: allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild for the
: low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7 cards. you
: may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last card eg..a
: a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible to be
: showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow) may not
: look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i know it
: sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game and great
: at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we will
: give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of a
: pot.Smile
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: : Hi,
: :
: : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and discard 2
: at
: : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part is
: the
: : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the
: lowestcard
: : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example if
: you
: : had:
: :
: : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your
: : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild for
: the
: : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: :
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : : Hi
: : :
: : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game is??
: : :
: : : Thanks
: : :
: : : redsimon
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Gareth 'The Nugget' Jones
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:27 am
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If you come to Blackpool to learn the Shifting Sands make sure you bring plenty of bread for the seagulls on the beach- cos thats where you'll end up talking to yourself !!

Victor the Slug can lease out a couple of his seagulls at a very cheap rate !!!

Sorry Russ could'nt help myself !!

Kind Regards
The Nugget
--Previous Message--

: saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to omaha. the
: only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn over the
: card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you choose which
: card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round, this
: allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild for the
: low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7 cards. you
: may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last card eg..a
: a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible to be
: showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow) may not
: look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i know it
: sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game and great
: at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we will
: give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of a
: pot.Smile
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: : Hi,
: :
: : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and discard 2
: at
: : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part is
: the
: : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the
: lowestcard
: : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example if
: you
: : had:
: :
: : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your
: : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild for
: the
: : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: :
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : : Hi
: : :
: : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game is??
: : :
: : : Thanks
: : :
: : : redsimon
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redsimon
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:55 am
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I spend a lot of time doing that already Gareth!

I suppose the Omaha lessons are even more costly? Smile

--Previous Message--

: If you come to Blackpool to learn the Shifting Sands make sure you bring
: plenty of bread for the seagulls on the beach- cos thats where you'll end up
: talking to yourself !!
:
: Victor the Slug can lease out a couple of his seagulls at a very cheap rate
: !!!
:
: Sorry Russ could'nt help myself !!
:
: Kind Regards
: The Nugget
: --Previous Message--
:
: : saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to omaha.
: the
: : only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn over
: the
: : card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you choose
: which
: : card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round,
: this
: : allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild for
: the
: : low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7 cards.
: you
: : may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last card
: eg..a
: : a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible to be
: : showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow) may
: not
: : look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i know
: it
: : sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game and
: great
: : at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we
: will
: : give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of a
: : pot.Smile
: :
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : : Hi,
: : :
: : : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and discard
: 2
: : at
: : : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part is
: : the
: : : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the
: : lowestcard
: : : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example if
: : you
: : : had:
: : :
: : : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your
: : : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild
: for
: : the
: : : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: : :
: : : --Previous Message--
: : :
: : : : Hi
: : : :
: : : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game
: is??
: : : :
: : : : Thanks
: : : :
: : : : redsimon


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Big Dave D
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:55 pm
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No game where your hand can get worse is a game with a lot of skill. If you think about it, and you are now a winning player, as you claim, this is fairly obvious.

gl

dd

--Previous Message--

: saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to omaha. the
: only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn over the
: card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you choose which
: card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round, this
: allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild for the
: low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7 cards. you
: may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last card eg..a
: a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible to be
: showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow) may not
: look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i know it
: sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game and great
: at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we will
: give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of a
: pot.Smile
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: : Hi,
: :
: : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and discard 2
: at
: : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part is
: the
: : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the
: lowestcard
: : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example if
: you
: : had:
: :
: : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your
: : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild for
: the
: : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: :
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : : Hi
: : :
: : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game is??
: : :
: : : Thanks
: : :
: : : redsimon


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MattJ
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:57 pm
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I apologise in advance for being pedantic...

Even in games like holdem, where (although it often appears not to be the case) there is a little bit of skill involved, your hand can get worse.

For example yesterday in a $100 event on pokerstars i held 33 in the BB. Flop arrives [3 10 10] - i am pleased. Slowplay it a little against a couple of runners (oops) and the next two cards arrive 10, 10 leaving the board showing [3 10 10 10 10]. OK i agree i have improved from a full house to quads, but the strength of my hand has gone from (very-nearly-but-not-quite) the nuts to the nut low. I have to hope my opponents hold (3-2 & 2-2) or (2-2 and 2-2) exactly to even hope to get a piece of the pot Smile

apologies for being pedantic but i read your post and this hand from last night sprang to mind. [i'm not bitter about the outcome at all and i'm not using this post as therapy etc Smile]

MattJ
--Previous Message--

: No game where your hand can get worse is a game with a lot of skill. If you
: think about it, and you are now a winning player, as you claim, this is fairly
: obvious.
:
: gl
:
: dd
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: : saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to omaha.
: the
: : only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn over
: the
: : card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you choose
: which
: : card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round,
: this
: : allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild for
: the
: : low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7 cards.
: you
: : may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last card
: eg..a
: : a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible to be
: : showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow) may
: not
: : look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i know
: it
: : sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game and
: great
: : at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we
: will
: : give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of a
: : pot.Smile
: :
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : : Hi,
: : :
: : : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and discard
: 2
: : at
: : : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part is
: : the
: : : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the
: : lowestcard
: : : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example if
: : you
: : : had:
: : :
: : : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your
: : : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild
: for
: : the
: : : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: : :
: : : --Previous Message--
: : :
: : : : Hi
: : : :
: : : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game
: is??
: : : :
: : : : Thanks
: : : :
: : : : redsimon
:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:58 pm
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You went from a full house to quads and your hand got worse? Your chances of winning got worse...these are very different. In games like shifting sands, and also other favourites like say killer, you actually can move down the hand rankings. This is why lowball only games, unless played with big stacks and big bet style, are luck fests and also why bad players like them.

gl

dd

--Previous Message--

:
: I apologise in advance for being pedantic...
:
: Even in games like holdem, where (although it often appears not to be the
: case) there is a little bit of skill involved, your hand can get worse.
:
: For example yesterday in a $100 event on pokerstars i held 33 in the BB.
: Flop arrives [3 10 10] - i am pleased. Slowplay it a little against a couple
: of runners (oops) and the next two cards arrive 10, 10 leaving the board
: showing [3 10 10 10 10]. OK i agree i have improved from a full house to quads,
: but the strength of my hand has gone from (very-nearly-but-not-quite) the nuts
: to the nut low. I have to hope my opponents hold (3-2 & 2-2) or (2-2 and 2-2)
: exactly to even hope to get a piece of the pot Smile
:
: apologies for being pedantic but i read your post and this hand from last
: night sprang to mind. [i'm not bitter about the outcome at all and i'm not using
: this post as therapy etc Smile]
:
: MattJ
: --Previous Message--
:
: : No game where your hand can get worse is a game with a lot of skill. If
: you
: : think about it, and you are now a winning player, as you claim, this is
: fairly
: : obvious.
: :
: : gl
: :
: : dd
: :
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : : saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to omaha.
: : the
: : : only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn over
: : the
: : : card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you
: choose
: : which
: : : card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round,
: : this
: : : allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild
: for
: : the
: : : low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7
: cards.
: : you
: : : may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last card
: : eg..a
: : : a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible to
: be
: : : showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow) may
: : not
: : : look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i
: know
: : it
: : : sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game and
: : great
: : : at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we
: : will
: : : give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of a
: : : pot.Smile
: : :
: : : --Previous Message--
: : :
: : : : Hi,
: : : :
: : : : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and
: discard
: : 2
: : : at
: : : : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part
: is
: : : the
: : : : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the
: : : lowestcard
: : : : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for example
: if
: : : you
: : : : had:
: : : :
: : : : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are your
: : : : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are wild
: : for
: : : the
: : : : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: : : :
: : : : --Previous Message--
: : : :
: : : : : Hi
: : : : :
: : : : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this game
: : is??
: : : : :
: : : : : Thanks
: : : : :
: : : : : redsimon
: :
:


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Big Dave D
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:05 pm
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A better example for holdem would be that you held 4 queens on the turn, but only a straight by the river. This is how bad the switcheroo can be in floating wild card games, and also str8 lowball. You may still win (conversely to your holdem example) but the important thing is that the raw value of your hand has got much worse, which simply can't happen in normal games.

--Previous Message--

: You went from a full house to quads and your hand got worse? Your chances of
: winning got worse...these are very different. In games like shifting sands, and
: also other favourites like say killer, you actually can move down the hand
: rankings. This is why lowball only games, unless played with big stacks and big
: bet style, are luck fests and also why bad players like them.
:
: gl
:
: dd
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: :
: : I apologise in advance for being pedantic...
: :
: : Even in games like holdem, where (although it often appears not to be
: the
: : case) there is a little bit of skill involved, your hand can get worse.
: :
: : For example yesterday in a $100 event on pokerstars i held 33 in the BB.
: : Flop arrives [3 10 10] - i am pleased. Slowplay it a little against a
: couple
: : of runners (oops) and the next two cards arrive 10, 10 leaving the board
: : showing [3 10 10 10 10]. OK i agree i have improved from a full house to
: quads,
: : but the strength of my hand has gone from (very-nearly-but-not-quite) the
: nuts
: : to the nut low. I have to hope my opponents hold (3-2 & 2-2) or (2-2 and
: 2-2)
: : exactly to even hope to get a piece of the pot Smile
: :
: : apologies for being pedantic but i read your post and this hand from
: last
: : night sprang to mind. [i'm not bitter about the outcome at all and i'm not
: using
: : this post as therapy etc Smile]
: :
: : MattJ
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : : No game where your hand can get worse is a game with a lot of skill. If
: : you
: : : think about it, and you are now a winning player, as you claim, this is
: : fairly
: : : obvious.
: : :
: : : gl
: : :
: : : dd
: : :
: : : --Previous Message--
: : :
: : : : saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to
: omaha.
: : : the
: : : : only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn
: over
: : : the
: : : : card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you
: : choose
: : : which
: : : : card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting round,
: : : this
: : : : allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is wild
: : for
: : : the
: : : : low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7
: : cards.
: : : you
: : : : may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last
: card
: : : eg..a
: : : : a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible
: to
: : be
: : : : showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow)
: may
: : : not
: : : : look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel. i
: : know
: : : it
: : : : sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game
: and
: : : great
: : : : at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were we
: : : will
: : : : give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8 of
: a
: : : : pot.Smile
: : : :
: : : : --Previous Message--
: : : :
: : : : : Hi,
: : : : :
: : : : : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and
: : discard
: : : 2
: : : : at
: : : : : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky part
: : is
: : : : the
: : : : : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and the
: : : : lowestcard
: : : : : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for
: example
: : if
: : : : you
: : : : : had:
: : : : :
: : : : : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are
: your
: : : : : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are
: wild
: : : for
: : : : the
: : : : : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: : : : :
: : : : : --Previous Message--
: : : : :
: : : : : : Hi
: : : : : :
: : : : : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this
: game
: : : is??
: : : : : :
: : : : : : Thanks
: : : : : :
: : : : : : redsimon
: : :
: :
:


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MattJ
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:12 pm
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Not disageeing with you at all Dave. I also pointed out i was being pedantic and I did admit that improved from a boat to quads. I take your points entirely, very sensible in my opinion. I still do think that although the theoretical value of my hand went up on the 'poker ladder' (to coin a phrase), the ACTUAL value of my hand went straight down the toilet on the river.
Different situation from what you are getting at, i know, but related nonetheless. Figured it was worth posting during a break in the tourney i was playing...
--Previous Message--

: A better example for holdem would be that you held 4 queens on the turn, but
: only a straight by the river. This is how bad the switcheroo can be in floating
: wild card games, and also str8 lowball. You may still win (conversely to your
: holdem example) but the important thing is that the raw value of your hand has
: got much worse, which simply can't happen in normal games.
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: : You went from a full house to quads and your hand got worse? Your chances
: of
: : winning got worse...these are very different. In games like shifting sands,
: and
: : also other favourites like say killer, you actually can move down the hand
: : rankings. This is why lowball only games, unless played with big stacks and
: big
: : bet style, are luck fests and also why bad players like them.
: :
: : gl
: :
: : dd
: :
: : --Previous Message--
: :
: : :
: : : I apologise in advance for being pedantic...
: : :
: : : Even in games like holdem, where (although it often appears not to be
: : the
: : : case) there is a little bit of skill involved, your hand can get worse.
: : :
: : : For example yesterday in a $100 event on pokerstars i held 33 in the
: BB.
: : : Flop arrives [3 10 10] - i am pleased. Slowplay it a little against a
: : couple
: : : of runners (oops) and the next two cards arrive 10, 10 leaving the board
: : : showing [3 10 10 10 10]. OK i agree i have improved from a full house to
: : quads,
: : : but the strength of my hand has gone from (very-nearly-but-not-quite) the
: : nuts
: : : to the nut low. I have to hope my opponents hold (3-2 & 2-2) or (2-2 and
: : 2-2)
: : : exactly to even hope to get a piece of the pot Smile
: : :
: : : apologies for being pedantic but i read your post and this hand from
: : last
: : : night sprang to mind. [i'm not bitter about the outcome at all and i'm
: not
: : using
: : : this post as therapy etc Smile]
: : :
: : : MattJ
: : : --Previous Message--
: : :
: : : : No game where your hand can get worse is a game with a lot of skill.
: If
: : : you
: : : : think about it, and you are now a winning player, as you claim, this is
: : : fairly
: : : : obvious.
: : : :
: : : : gl
: : : :
: : : : dd
: : : :
: : : : --Previous Message--
: : : :
: : : : : saying shifting sands is like superstud is like comparing texas to
: : omaha.
: : : : the
: : : : : only similarity is that u start with 5 cards and discard 2 then turn
: : over
: : : : the
: : : : : card of your choice. each subsequent card is delt face down and you
: : : choose
: : : : which
: : : : : card out of your 3 "down" cards you want to show on each betting
: round,
: : : : this
: : : : : allows you to disguise your hand.the highest card in your hand is
: wild
: : : for
: : : : the
: : : : : low and the lowest is wild for your high. this is after u have your 7
: : : cards.
: : : : you
: : : : : may be holding a monster after 6 cards and counterfit it on the last
: : card
: : : : eg..a
: : : : : a 333 t( 5 aces) becomes 4 3s if u hit a 2 on the end. it is possible
: : to
: : : be
: : : : : showing absolute garbage and have a huge hand.. eg 5 9 t k( rainbow)
: : may
: : : : not
: : : : : look much but if u have kkk underneath it becomes 5kings and a wheel.
: i
: : : know
: : : : it
: : : : : sounds like a bingo type game but i think it is a very skillful game
: : and
: : : : great
: : : : : at building pots. the best way to learn is to come to blackpool were
: we
: : : : will
: : : : : give you lessons quite cheaply and we may even let u win the odd 1/8
: of
: : a
: : : : : pot.Smile
: : : : :
: : : : : --Previous Message--
: : : : :
: : : : : : Hi,
: : : : : :
: : : : : : Basically it is like super-stud where you receive five cards and
: : : discard
: : : : 2
: : : : : at
: : : : : : the start and then a round of betting on each street. The tricky
: part
: : : is
: : : : : the
: : : : : : wild cards. The highest card in your hand is wild for the low and
: the
: : : : : lowestcard
: : : : : : in your hand is wild for the high and aces are neutral. so for
: : example
: : : if
: : : : : you
: : : : : : had:
: : : : : :
: : : : : : 2 2 K K A 4 5, you would have a wheel for the low as the Kings are
: : your
: : : : : : highest card and your high hand would be 4 kings as the deuces are
: : wild
: : : : for
: : : : : the
: : : : : : high. I hope this makes some sense to you.
: : : : : :
: : : : : : --Previous Message--
: : : : : :
: : : : : : : Hi
: : : : : : :
: : : : : : : Just nosey, but can one of the Blackpool crew explain what this
: : game
: : : : is??
: : : : : : :
: : : : : : : Thanks
: : : : : : :
: : : : : : : redsimon
: : : :
: : :
: :
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