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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:13 pm
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Marcus6 wrote:
Indestructible wrote:
Made day two with average stack of 81k



Nice Very Happy


Take it down Indy - sadly can't rail, best of luck though.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:02 pm
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Indestructible wrote:
While i was there i was reading bluff magazine about an old guy called Barny winning a bracelet, gave me inspiration.
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have you won?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:49 pm
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Indestructible wrote:
Made day two with average stack of 81k


Good luck Ed!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:30 am
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Cheers, Southend here I come. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:20 am
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Cheers, Southend here I come. Cool


How are the locals behaving?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:44 pm
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My trip report for day 1c at GPS Southend:

As an $11 nit online and only playing regularly in pub poker and maybe once a month at poker clubs/casinos this was easily the biggest buy in I had ever played in, but luckily I had won my seat through the great league the mob ran.

My first table stayed together for a long while and I got dealt a decent number of hands that hit or that I was able to c-bet and take down; I hit a set with 22, took down a pot with a c-bet after three betting with AK, won a big pot with a set of 10's that maybe I could have played better and so on. As every hand I seemed to win without showdown I was seen as being very active and although the blinds were low with 1 hour blinds my stack went from 25k to 39k during level 2.

I think it was in level 3 where I took a big hit both in terms of chips but more so my confidence.

I had witnessed a previous hand where there had been 4 betting or maybe even 5 betting pre-flop. The (last) aggressor bet flop and turn before moving all in on the river- the board at that time was J high, no flush or straight possibilities. He was called. The aggressor flipped AQ for ace high and I waited for the other player to flip a big over pair or perhaps a set of Jacks. He turned over 10 4 off suit and won with hitting a four on the flop. I was stunned but everyone said what great play it was - including the player who lost who said he just got "schooled".

Anyway Mr 10 4 raised from the cut off+1 and I looked down at QQ in the big blind. He had raised to 550 (or so) with BB at 200. I re-raised to 1900 with my table image as being loose and I had 3-bet more than anyone by far. He flatted. The flop came down Q 10 2 rainbow. I knew he liked to outplay peoples so I thought it would look like a weak bet if I led for the same amount as my raise- 19k. I remember reading a Victoria Coren article where she talked about the weak lead and inducing a bet with a check on the turn and that is what I planned to do when I led on the flop. The turn was slightly problematic - it was a K meaning AJ got there and gave a diamond flush draw. I checked and he checked behind. Should I have changed my strategy on that card? The river was horrendous - a J, meaning that I was beaten by any ace. I checked the river (should I have done a small bet and folded to a raise?) and he bet 4K. I folded face up. Ignoring the fact I shouldn't have shown (he didn't reciprocate) did I have to call regardless?

After that hand my confidence, cards and luck completely dried up and I don't remember winning a hand for 2 hours.

During the tournament I noticed players made really small pre-flop raises - even when the antes kicked in. i.e. almost to a man when in level 5 it was 200 400 50A they would raised 825 or 850. What was most shocking for me was that players folded there BB to these raises. I remember Barny once writing about how he (mostly) never folds to a min-raise as it is too weak and leaves your BB open to steal and I always though the same but it got me thinking about pot odds and there real worth.

At around level six it was 300 600 75A and my big blind was raised every round by the same guy. I had junk each time but in line with the paragraph above I would call and fold after missing (I never it once). I think he would have called a 3-bet to outplay me so maybe I should have shoved/raised his c-bet after I check regardless of flop. I had about 15k and when I had raised I had been called, missed and I felt people were looking to outplay me now. With the antes as well I reasoned that shoving with 20bb was the right thing to do when the opportunity came. This I did and the first time Mr 10 4 said "Are we at that time already? he just shoved with 20BB!" and there was a lot of muttering under the breath. Undeterred I did this about three more times before being called with KJ suited by 88 and spiking a K, so I had got the double up I wanted.

I had about 26k by the time I ended up on the feature (live stream) table at around 10:15pm that included Jon Kalmar whereby events made me wonder if I need to seriously loosen up. With the binds at 500 1000 100A UTG limps and I had 22k and look down at AJ. We are 10 handed. I have always been off the (ABC old) school though that AJ UTG+1 is no-where near good enough to raise a limper (who must have a plan limping) and limping after could create a good spot to steal which with only 20ish big's I cant call, so I fold. Long story shot, I would have flopped 2 pair and river a house but I know that's irrelevant. What was more interesting to me was that Skallie's raised the limper from cut off+1 with what turned out to be A8 and I think the raiser had Q10 or some such. Am I living in the past thinking that AJ UTG+1 10 handed is too weak? Should I have limped/raised/jammed? I entered the last level of the day with 18k or so with blinds at 600 1200 200A and looked down in UTG+1 with KQ and decided to Jam. I was called by the only stack smaller then me who had AQ and lost. I then jammed my last remaining stack of aprox 7K next hand and Skallie re-raised and then busted me with his 10 10.

All in all a great experience but I realise I have to lot to learn in certain situations. That said I don't think the level was "that" great which is what Ross intimated regarding the standard in a video Q+A a month or 2 back beyond what you can expect in your normal 50-100 club buy-in on average, but with a few special players (and plays) thrown in. I would encourage anyone who hasn't to try and satellite in to such a similar buy in (and structured) event.

I would like to say a big thank you to the Mob for running the league - it was really appreciated! Very Happy

I hope Indy or indeed any Mob member takes it down or at least gets a big cash!Cool

(so as not to clutter the thread I will post hand analysis in the right section and maybe ask specific strategy questions on the main thread so you can all help me improve).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:26 pm
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skinnydookie wrote:
My trip report for day 1c at GPS Southend:

As an $11 nit online and only playing regularly in pub poker and maybe once a month at poker clubs/casinos this was easily the biggest buy in I had ever played in, but luckily I had won my seat through the great league the mob ran.

My first table stayed together for a long while and I got dealt a decent number of hands that hit or that I was able to c-bet and take down; I hit a set with 22, took down a pot with a c-bet after three betting with AK, won a big pot with a set of 10's that maybe I could have played better and so on. As every hand I seemed to win without showdown I was seen as being very active and although the blinds were low with 1 hour blinds my stack went from 25k to 39k during level 2.

I think it was in level 3 where I took a big hit both in terms of chips but more so my confidence.

I had witnessed a previous hand where there had been 4 betting or maybe even 5 betting pre-flop. The (last) aggressor bet flop and turn before moving all in on the river- the board at that time was J high, no flush or straight possibilities. He was called. The aggressor flipped AQ for ace high and I waited for the other player to flip a big over pair or perhaps a set of Jacks. He turned over 10 4 off suit and won with hitting a four on the flop. I was stunned but everyone said what great play it was - including the player who lost who said he just got "schooled".

Anyway Mr 10 4 raised from the cut off+1 and I looked down at QQ in the big blind. He had raised to 550 (or so) with BB at 200. I re-raised to 1900 with my table image as being loose and I had 3-bet more than anyone by far. He flatted. The flop came down Q 10 2 rainbow. I knew he liked to outplay peoples so I thought it would look like a weak bet if I led for the same amount as my raise- 19k. I remember reading a Victoria Coren article where she talked about the weak lead and inducing a bet with a check on the turn and that is what I planned to do when I led on the flop. The turn was slightly problematic - it was a K meaning AJ got there and gave a diamond flush draw. I checked and he checked behind. Should I have changed my strategy on that card? The river was horrendous - a J, meaning that I was beaten by any ace. I checked the river (should I have done a small bet and folded to a raise?) and he bet 4K. I folded face up. Ignoring the fact I shouldn't have shown (he didn't reciprocate) did I have to call regardless?

After that hand my confidence, cards and luck completely dried up and I don't remember winning a hand for 2 hours.

During the tournament I noticed players made really small pre-flop raises - even when the antes kicked in. i.e. almost to a man when in level 5 it was 200 400 50A they would raised 825 or 850. What was most shocking for me was that players folded there BB to these raises. I remember Barny once writing about how he (mostly) never folds to a min-raise as it is too weak and leaves your BB open to steal and I always though the same but it got me thinking about pot odds and there real worth.

At around level six it was 300 600 75A and my big blind was raised every round by the same guy. I had junk each time but in line with the paragraph above I would call and fold after missing (I never it once). I think he would have called a 3-bet to outplay me so maybe I should have shoved/raised his c-bet after I check regardless of flop. I had about 15k and when I had raised I had been called, missed and I felt people were looking to outplay me now. With the antes as well I reasoned that shoving with 20bb was the right thing to do when the opportunity came. This I did and the first time Mr 10 4 said "Are we at that time already? he just shoved with 20BB!" and there was a lot of muttering under the breath. Undeterred I did this about three more times before being called with KJ suited by 88 and spiking a K, so I had got the double up I wanted.

I had about 26k by the time I ended up on the feature (live stream) table at around 10:15pm that included Jon Kalmar whereby events made me wonder if I need to seriously loosen up. With the binds at 500 1000 100A UTG limps and I had 22k and look down at AJ. We are 10 handed. I have always been off the (ABC old) school though that AJ UTG+1 is no-where near good enough to raise a limper (who must have a plan limping) and limping after could create a good spot to steal which with only 20ish big's I cant call, so I fold. Long story shot, I would have flopped 2 pair and river a house but I know that's irrelevant. What was more interesting to me was that Skallie's raised the limper from cut off+1 with what turned out to be A8 and I think the raiser had Q10 or some such. Am I living in the past thinking that AJ UTG+1 10 handed is too weak? Should I have limped/raised/jammed? I entered the last level of the day with 18k or so with blinds at 600 1200 200A and looked down in UTG+1 with KQ and decided to Jam. I was called by the only stack smaller then me who had AQ and lost. I then jammed my last remaining stack of aprox 7K next hand and Skallie re-raised and then busted me with his 10 10.

All in all a great experience but I realise I have to lot to learn in certain situations. That said I don't think the level was "that" great which is what Ross intimated regarding the standard in a video Q+A a month or 2 back beyond what you can expect in your normal 50-100 club buy-in on average, but with a few special players (and plays) thrown in. I would encourage anyone who hasn't to try and satellite in to such a similar buy in (and structured) event.

I would like to say a big thank you to the Mob for running the league - it was really appreciated! Very Happy

I hope Indy or indeed any Mob member takes it down or at least gets a big cash!Cool

(so as not to clutter the thread I will post hand analysis in the right section and maybe ask specific strategy questions on the main thread so you can all help me improve).



Hi mate, you have let his play get in your head! the guy with 10,4 if he has opened in the CO you have to look at it 2 ways 1.) he may have a hand! 2.) he maybe trying to nick the blinds, and i would be think more along the lines that he is trying to nick the blinds

what ever he has i think you have let him get there! you played it like you was playing online, thats how it comes over! i think you have to bet out each time leting up on the turn was his opening to take over (for me if i have hit big sets playing live i will bet flop turn and river,) unless i get ch/R then i would slow down, i think you have to bet the turn in that spot for info to see where you are! if he has got there and there was a flush draw the odds are he is going RR your turn bet! if he just calls, i would still fire a bet on the river or just call his 4K bet




Thats IMO

lets face what do i know lol


i'm sure someone better than me will give there point! on how you played it or how you could have played it..

But did you have fun....... Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:31 pm
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Out in 39th place. Had to work hard for it as had a bit of a card dead day. Exit hand was my first showdown of the tournament. I shove with 9-9 and BB has Q-A and he calls. Ace on the turn and I am gone.

So from my free 5 token I won 950.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:39 pm
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Indestructible wrote:
Out in 39th place. Had to work hard for it as had a bit of a card dead day. Exit hand was my first showdown of the tournament. I shove with 9-9 and BB has Q-A and he calls. Ace on the turn and I am gone.

So from my free 5 token I won 950.
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well done Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:18 pm
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Indestructible wrote:
Out in 39th place. Had to work hard for it as had a bit of a card dead day. Exit hand was my first showdown of the tournament. I shove with 9-9 and BB has Q-A and he calls. Ace on the turn and I am gone.

So from my free 5 token I won 950.
Dance



Well done! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:00 am
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WOW just been watching GPS live,

utg has KK and 800K he opens for 29K its folds to CO and he jams for 95K then the Button RR to 230K and has about 500K back, KK folds Shocked and he shows as well lol,

CO has KJ and B has AQ
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