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stowjon
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 Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:36 pm
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I arrived at the Mint on the hottest day of the year after checking into the Kensington Close Hotel the tourney was already full and there was 45minutes before we had the cards in the air. When the seat draw was made i noticed that a f/book friend of mine was on my tabe James Lee, James had the night befor took down the Hotter75 on stars and is a real force online but i didnt know anything about his live play, so was looking to avoid pots with him which was gonna be fairly easy as i was in seat 3 and he was in 8, What i had not seen was that in seat 4 was Sam Holden. with Sam direct to my left i thought it would slow our table down and it did to a point. end of level 2 and ive got my 20k stack upto 23k thanks to a flopped set which i had to stop the pot on the turn as the board wasnt to pretty and didnt want to get rivered early doors.
The last hand b4 the break and i have JJ and i raise the player in seat 6 who was down to 6k flat calls and the board comes 6,4,10 which im happy with i bet and he flat calls, turn comes an ACE and i bet and he flats, river comes 6 and i play the river pretty bad with a ck call of his last 3k shove to which he show 6,3 and hes dbld up and im down to 17k, 2nd hand back from the break and i have JJ again and the same player flat calls my bet the board comes 7h3c9s i bet out and he flat calls the turn comes 2c i bet and again he flat calls the river comes *c and i check call his bet of about 1/3 of the pot and nearly puke when he turns over the 10cKc he has seriously played the hand awful and im still racking my brains as to WTF he was doing. in the same orbit i had JJ for the 3rd time and again i get screwed on the river to leave me about 7k. My exit hand played out as follows. i get dealt 10cKc (ironically twice this hand screwed me) and i min raise hoping to take the blinds and i get called by the BB the flop comes 8c9cAs the BB cks and i bet 1/2 pot hoping he thinks i have an Ace and he flat calls the turn comes 2c which gives me the 2nd nutz he bets 2.5k and i drop my last 6k into the pot, he tanks and asks me if im telling him ive hit my flush, then he asks the dealer if he thinks ive hit my flush, then tells the whole table that hes sure ive hit it tanks a minute or so more then makes the call and tells the table he knew id hit the turn as i show my flush he tables pocket 8s the 9 on the turn sends me to the rail. It still kills me how people can possibly be so convinced that they are so far behind and still make these calls.
I didnt hang about after going out i just took the very hot walk back to the hotel, grabbed a quick shower and had a nice walk round kensington with the missus, the jumped on the tube over to china town and grabbed the best chinese buffet ever, took the missus back to kensington then jumped straight back onto the tube to the Fox poker club for the £30 tourney where i never picked a hand up for 3hrs then got the big AA in the bb after a raise and a call the only bet was to shove it in which got looked up by a gorgeous 55 and BOOOOOOM 5 on the flop sent me packing back to Kensington. Finished my night with a few beers in the Hotel bar after having to explain to the barman that i was not gonna spend £6.50 on a pint and that his beer should be no more than £4.50 i won the argument but he won the war when they decided to shut the hotel bar at midnight much to the moans and groans of i would say about 30 people who wanted to carry on drinking, not lager louts mostly middle aged couples who just wanted a beer or glass of wine.
I would like to thank the Mob for choosing me to play and Alexa from 888 whom i never really got to speak to as i wasnt really there long enough, and also the people who comp'd the Hotel room its a fantastic hotel. But please sort out your bar staff as this is the only Hotel ive ever been in that stopped serving drinks at midnight especially when 25-30 people would have carried on drinking and at your prices i would say you lost at least another £500 sales.
I will be playing another SuperStack in the future.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:39 pm
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Creq?
JJ bust 3 times and some awful starstruck pre and post flop play. Couple of train rides and a beers. Didn't nail missus.
Nice breakfast.
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darrensprengers
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:04 pm
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| Bogus wrote: | Creq?
JJ bust 3 times and some awful starstruck pre and post flop play. Couple of train rides and a beers. Didn't nail missus.
Nice breakfast. |
lol
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WBPP
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:53 pm
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Paragraphs are your friend.
You really went to a half decent hotel and moaned about the prices?
Sorry mate, you're in London for the weekend not Skeggy.
As for the play................. least the next player hasn't much to live up to 
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stowjon
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:34 am
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| WBPP wrote: | Paragraphs are your friend.
You really went to a half decent hotel and moaned about the prices? Turns out i was right to moan as the price of the pints as when the english barman served me my next pint it was £3.85!!! The other barman obv wasnt happy enough with tip he wanted that little bit extra!
Sorry mate, you're in London for the weekend not Skeggy. London or Skeggy im not gonna be fleeced anywhere
As for the play................. least the next player hasn't much to live up to do you really think i played any of the hands badly if so id like to know where so i can adjust my game if your right |
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MintTrav
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:24 am
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| stowjon wrote: | | My exit hand played out as follows. i get dealt 10cKc (ironically twice this hand screwed me) and i min raise hoping to take the blinds and i get called by the BB the flop comes 8c9cAs the BB cks and i bet 1/2 pot hoping he thinks i have an Ace and he flat calls the turn comes 2c which gives me the 2nd nutz he bets 2.5k and i drop my last 6k into the pot, he tanks and asks me if im telling him ive hit my flush, then he asks the dealer if he thinks ive hit my flush, then tells the whole table that hes sure ive hit it tanks a minute or so more then makes the call and tells the table he knew id hit the turn as i show my flush he tables pocket 8s the 9 on the turn sends me to the rail. It still kills me how people can possibly be so convinced that they are so far behind and still make these calls. |
To clarify a couple of points:
Two callers of pre-flop raise – the girl in seat 7 also came to the flop (and the turn).
You didn’t bet the flop - you called a bet of 1k. All three of us went to the turn.
Regarding the call, I thought there was a good chance you had the flush but you didn't have to have it. I don't recall telling the table that I knew you had it – I didn’t know whether you had or not and, clearly, there was a good chance that you didn’t. If you don't, I'm killing most other hands. If you do have the flush, I still have 10 outs. The pot was already 17k and I had chips behind, so call and win, I have a good stack; call and lose, I'm still there; fold, I am below starting stack but have 6k more than if I call & lose. Adding in the possibility that you may not have the flush, I think I have to call.
Anyway, despite your reservations about my play, I somehow managed to finish the day as chip-leader and to cash in the tournament. I'm sure you'll be pleased for me. |
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darrensprengers
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:09 am
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how was the pot 17k when only 3k went in on the flop?
14k was the pre-flop action?
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stowjon
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:26 am
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| MintTrav wrote: | | stowjon wrote: | | My exit hand played out as follows. i get dealt 10cKc (ironically twice this hand screwed me) and i min raise hoping to take the blinds and i get called by the BB the flop comes 8c9cAs the BB cks and i bet 1/2 pot hoping he thinks i have an Ace and he flat calls the turn comes 2c which gives me the 2nd nutz he bets 2.5k and i drop my last 6k into the pot, he tanks and asks me if im telling him ive hit my flush, then he asks the dealer if he thinks ive hit my flush, then tells the whole table that hes sure ive hit it tanks a minute or so more then makes the call and tells the table he knew id hit the turn as i show my flush he tables pocket 8s the 9 on the turn sends me to the rail. It still kills me how people can possibly be so convinced that they are so far behind and still make these calls. |
To clarify a couple of points:
Two callers of pre-flop raise – the girl in seat 7 also came to the flop (and the turn).
You didn’t bet the flop - you called a bet of 1k. All three of us went to the turn.
Regarding the call, I thought there was a good chance you had the flush but you didn't have to have it. I don't recall telling the table that I knew you had it – I didn’t know whether you had or not and, clearly, there was a good chance that you didn’t. If you don't, I'm killing most other hands. If you do have the flush, I still have 10 outs. The pot was already 17k and I had chips behind, so call and win, I have a good stack; call and lose, I'm still there; fold, I am below starting stack but have 6k more than if I call & lose. Adding in the possibility that you may not have the flush, I think I have to call.
Anyway, despite your reservations about my play, I somehow managed to finish the day as chip-leader and to cash in the tournament. I'm sure you'll be pleased for me. |
I may be wrong but im pretty sure the girl in seat 7 was not in the pot! and it was just me and you, and i also beg to differ about your speach im 100% sure on the fact that at some point you did say that i had hit my flush, you even asked me if i was telling you id hit the flush, to which i answered probably! i dont agree the pot to be 17k. to my memory i bet 1200 p/f to which you called so 2400 + 150sb + 250antes = 2800 + ur flop bet 1000 and my call makes it 4800 then your 2500 turn bet and my 6000 shove makes the pot 13,300. we have played together a few times and im sure we will cross swords again at some point (just hope i get as lucky as you next time  ) BTW well done on the cash and yes im pleased for you its always nicer to see somebody put your chips to good use rather than to spunk them away like a Douche.
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MintTrav
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:24 am
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| stowjon wrote: | | MintTrav wrote: | | stowjon wrote: | | My exit hand played out as follows. i get dealt 10cKc (ironically twice this hand screwed me) and i min raise hoping to take the blinds and i get called by the BB the flop comes 8c9cAs the BB cks and i bet 1/2 pot hoping he thinks i have an Ace and he flat calls the turn comes 2c which gives me the 2nd nutz he bets 2.5k and i drop my last 6k into the pot, he tanks and asks me if im telling him ive hit my flush, then he asks the dealer if he thinks ive hit my flush, then tells the whole table that hes sure ive hit it tanks a minute or so more then makes the call and tells the table he knew id hit the turn as i show my flush he tables pocket 8s the 9 on the turn sends me to the rail. It still kills me how people can possibly be so convinced that they are so far behind and still make these calls. |
To clarify a couple of points:
Two callers of pre-flop raise – the girl in seat 7 also came to the flop (and the turn).
You didn’t bet the flop - you called a bet of 1k. All three of us went to the turn.
Regarding the call, I thought there was a good chance you had the flush but you didn't have to have it. I don't recall telling the table that I knew you had it – I didn’t know whether you had or not and, clearly, there was a good chance that you didn’t. If you don't, I'm killing most other hands. If you do have the flush, I still have 10 outs. The pot was already 17k and I had chips behind, so call and win, I have a good stack; call and lose, I'm still there; fold, I am below starting stack but have 6k more than if I call & lose. Adding in the possibility that you may not have the flush, I think I have to call.
Anyway, despite your reservations about my play, I somehow managed to finish the day as chip-leader and to cash in the tournament. I'm sure you'll be pleased for me. |
I may be wrong but im pretty sure the girl in seat 7 was not in the pot! and it was just me and you, and i also beg to differ about your speach im 100% sure on the fact that at some point you did say that i had hit my flush, you even asked me if i was telling you id hit the flush, to which i answered probably! i dont agree the pot to be 17k. to my memory i bet 1200 p/f to which you called so 2400 + 150sb + 250antes = 2800 + ur flop bet 1000 and my call makes it 4800 then your 2500 turn bet and my 6000 shove makes the pot 13,300. we have played together a few times and im sure we will cross swords again at some point (just hope i get as lucky as you next time ) BTW well done on the cash and yes im pleased for you its always nicer to see somebody put your chips to good use rather than to spunk them away like a Douche. |
She was definitely there and her flop and pre-flop chips were in the pot. I certainly spoke about whether you had the flush and asked you. If I am convinced you have it, I have to fold my set but, in the end, I decided you were more likely to have a big pair + flush draw and went with that, with the backup of 10 outs if that was wrong, which it was. Well done, BTW, on no dramas re the outdraw. |
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stowjon
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:54 am
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| MintTrav wrote: | | stowjon wrote: | | MintTrav wrote: | | stowjon wrote: | | My exit hand played out as follows. i get dealt 10cKc (ironically twice this hand screwed me) and i min raise hoping to take the blinds and i get called by the BB the flop comes 8c9cAs the BB cks and i bet 1/2 pot hoping he thinks i have an Ace and he flat calls the turn comes 2c which gives me the 2nd nutz he bets 2.5k and i drop my last 6k into the pot, he tanks and asks me if im telling him ive hit my flush, then he asks the dealer if he thinks ive hit my flush, then tells the whole table that hes sure ive hit it tanks a minute or so more then makes the call and tells the table he knew id hit the turn as i show my flush he tables pocket 8s the 9 on the turn sends me to the rail. It still kills me how people can possibly be so convinced that they are so far behind and still make these calls. |
To clarify a couple of points:
Two callers of pre-flop raise – the girl in seat 7 also came to the flop (and the turn).
You didn’t bet the flop - you called a bet of 1k. All three of us went to the turn.
Regarding the call, I thought there was a good chance you had the flush but you didn't have to have it. I don't recall telling the table that I knew you had it – I didn’t know whether you had or not and, clearly, there was a good chance that you didn’t. If you don't, I'm killing most other hands. If you do have the flush, I still have 10 outs. The pot was already 17k and I had chips behind, so call and win, I have a good stack; call and lose, I'm still there; fold, I am below starting stack but have 6k more than if I call & lose. Adding in the possibility that you may not have the flush, I think I have to call.
Anyway, despite your reservations about my play, I somehow managed to finish the day as chip-leader and to cash in the tournament. I'm sure you'll be pleased for me. |
I may be wrong but im pretty sure the girl in seat 7 was not in the pot! and it was just me and you, and i also beg to differ about your speach im 100% sure on the fact that at some point you did say that i had hit my flush, you even asked me if i was telling you id hit the flush, to which i answered probably! i dont agree the pot to be 17k. to my memory i bet 1200 p/f to which you called so 2400 + 150sb + 250antes = 2800 + ur flop bet 1000 and my call makes it 4800 then your 2500 turn bet and my 6000 shove makes the pot 13,300. we have played together a few times and im sure we will cross swords again at some point (just hope i get as lucky as you next time ) BTW well done on the cash and yes im pleased for you its always nicer to see somebody put your chips to good use rather than to spunk them away like a Douche. |
She was definitely there and her flop and pre-flop chips were in the pot. I certainly spoke about whether you had the flush and asked you. If I am convinced you have it, I have to fold my set but, in the end, I decided you were more likely to have a big pair + flush draw and went with that, with the backup of 10 outs if that was wrong, which it was. Well done, BTW, on no dramas re the outdraw. |
Its not worth it to get arsey over an outdraw, ive never been a bad loser its a game and we all no bad beats happen! ive done it to others enough times. that added to the fact i was representing the forum and i would not want to make the forum look bad (even though the thieving twat behind the hotel bar did get short shrift). would be interested to hear what you thought about my other 3 hands that near killed me (JJ 3times) especially the one where i fired every street for the guy to hit his back door flush.
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AlexaSuperStackSupportManager
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:07 pm
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Hi Jon,
It was a pleasure having you at the Super Stack and believe me I wish you had stayed longer to chat with me
Have a look at Jon's interview http://spadesocial.com/watch/OzNGG
I am glad you enjoyed your stay at the hotel, it does indeed look fantastic! As for the bar, your feedback were reported to the management and changes are already done
I hope to see you in Birmingham in June (30/06 - 01/07)
For more info visit www.superstack.net
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StGilmore
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:05 pm
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There's the live in person StowJon we know and love (ChatbbanJon remains chained to the home computer I assume.) Nice interview Jon. 
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MintTrav
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:28 pm
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| stowjon wrote: | | would be interested to hear what you thought about my other 3 hands that near killed me (JJ 3times) especially the one where i fired every street for the guy to hit his back door flush. |
Not sure there's much to add. I would say you were a bit unlucky!
I don't recall the bet sizes, which would be fairly important to making a sensible comment. Perhaps he was floating the Flop with the thought that you might have missed with AK/AQ, etc and was planning to take it away from you if you c-bet the Flop and then checked the Turn. When he picked up the FD, he'll then call the Turn if the bet size is reasonable. Other than that, I don't know. |
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Bogus
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:29 pm
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The Grass strikes again.
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stowjon
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:32 pm
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| Bogus wrote: | | The Grass strikes again. |
if im a grass for not allowing myself to get ripped off then so be it! Sadly most jobs have little ways of making an extra few quid and sometimes you ppl try it on others that have more years and knowledge of rip offs than themselves!. I wont be knowingly ripped off and would not knowingly allow others to be either!
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