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fubar
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:26 am
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Ive been watching it over on hm, I think if i bet 2/3 rd pot on the river i go busto anyway when he shoves, or would it be foldable to the shove ? i get caught by theese hands over and and over.

Should i of made my bet bigger on the turn i guess he calls no mater what i do ?


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Nem
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:28 am
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bet flop or fold flop calling sucks.
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fubar
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:39 am
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i cant see much wrong with seeing the turn, surley the mistakes are made by him, Just my luck i guess.

Hes being offered around 2/1 with my bet on the turn i just cant understand why they stick around. But when he does i obviously give him credit for an ace maybe 2 pair with ace.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:22 am
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Nem wrote:
bet flop or fold flop calling sucks.


+1. U made your own luck - bad luck.

You're far better off raising the flop (and shutting down where necessary) rather than just calling - just inviting trouble.

The only reason for calling the c-bet here is if you're confident you can outplay the original raiser on later streets - but with someone to act behind you this is not a smart play.

Re villain's turn call - he's sticking around because of the implied odds - whereas before he was floating and looking to outplay the pair of you. Either that or he's a donkey luckbox!
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darrensprengers
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:01 am
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reraise preflop.

bet flop.

bet bigger on turn.
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fraac
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:27 pm
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fubar wrote:
i cant see much wrong with seeing the turn


You have 3rd pair against a bet and a call!
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Murph
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:46 pm
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Nem wrote:
bet flop or fold flop calling sucks.
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fubar
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:58 pm
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if the other guy folds then i would of folded, but when he called and it was 1.75 into 6.20 and the ace on board i just thought my implied odds to hit and stack off were good. Oblviously getting to terms with theese implied odds lol.

and boy was i wrong. Played the hand completly wrong. But the thing is given the same situation id play it the same way obviously betting bigger on the turn and not shoving the river though.

I see someone said reraise preflop but with people act after me i thought calling would be the best move because if any one comes over the top i fold and see no flop.

im to addicted to set mining, i need to review the way im playing middle pairs me thinks.
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peligruso
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:02 pm
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Also i don't understand the $30 shove into $16 odd on the river?

I assume you think you're winning and it's a value bet, if so it's a pretty big value bet.

If you bet around $12 he might only just call as KJ beats him, and if he does shove on that board you're almost certainly beat and can get away from it. I'm not saying it's easy but you need to be thinking about this.

How come you're playing 10/25 if you're not yet beating 05/10?
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fubar
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:32 pm
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peligruso wrote:
How come you're playing 10/25 if you're not yet beating 05/10?


cos im a lil plonker, I been playing 5/10 every day for ages and cant budge my br so i thought the games would be looser higher up. I actually won $100 in a few hours then ruined my br with 4 or 5 losses like that oh and j10 calling my aa all in preflop,then tilted all the rest just about Mad

serves me right i guess, just doubled my br in 1/2 cence lmao up to $20 again im on my way back. Not going to deposit im gunna do it the hard way and learn a lesson.
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eddshrinker
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:22 pm
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Whatever happened to le fly trap?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:32 pm
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Nem wrote:
bet flop or fold flop calling sucks.


this
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