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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:16 am
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what is the rule of thumb with regard to what blind levels should get to relative to average stack so as not to have a crap shoot after playing for 5 hours. 5 players left 760,000 chips in play, should there be a cap?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:23 am
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When I've organised tournaments my rule is that the Big Blind should be no more that 10% of the total amount of chips in play.
e.g. if there are 700,000 chips in play small blind 35,000 and big blind 70,000. This is for a $60 buy in event. I would make the % lower for a higher buy in. Maybe it's better to just increase the antes when you hit that magic '%'
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:27 am
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depends if DONNA is still in the game!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:28 am
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this seems enormous, if average stack is 152,000 how do you play poker at your levels?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:29 am
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that well known fluffer, i mean bluffer!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:32 am
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Sounds to me like you've increased the blinds either by too much or too quickly! Try a longer time between blinds (it's 2 hours in the world series) or increasing the amonts lower. It all depends on when you need to finish the event. The events I've organised were in a Working Mens Club in Yorkshire, England, where we had to start at 8pm and be finished by 1am latest!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:34 am
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met the bluffer, thought the rest was rumours!!

back to the topic, i think i used to cap at 5% of chips in play
ie 700,000 blinds total 35,000 bb20 sb10k ish

as you say and as we both know, at the end of some tournies you have a less playable stack than when you started with 5,000 hours ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:37 am
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I dont understand what your saying, you say 35,000 SB 70,000 BB, well the average stack is 152,000 so 50% of your chips are going in to play just to call, cant be right.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:14 am
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Above posts are confusing, no need for a cap. 5% (-10%) of chips in the BB is a good way to estimate which level will be the final level (but if you need it finished on time make sure it keeps rising!).

If the average is 20-30bbs at the start it will be a decent final table.

A slightly slower progression might be needed 1/3rd of the way in than 3/4 of the way in:

Almost always gets crapshootish at 4 handed, then goes back to reasonable heads up, because halving the field from 8 to 4 take 4 eliminations and a lot of levels, halving again is only 2 eliminations and shorthanded play ensures stacks stay appropriate to blinds more consistently.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:38 pm
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can i take it then that at some stage as long as i keep blind levels that take no more than 15% of the average stack away i.e. avg stack 152,000k, 5 players remaining, max blinds 5kSB, 10k BB AND 1,000 ANTE i shouldnt be to far away.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:57 pm
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IMO, with the ante, 3k/6k/1k would create a decent amount of play and action at that stage.

The last level will probably be at a 40k BB, I might go:

3/6/1
4/8/1
5/10/1
6/12/2
8/16/2
10/20/2
15/30/3
20/40/4
(30/60/10, 40/80/10 etc)

Setting level length depending on time available, but there might be other things to consider that you havent mentioned.
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